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Vika
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:30 am Post subject:
WMP video files |
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Please help! I'm trying to learn Russian and Ukrainian. I sometims go online
to watch Russian TV online. BUT whenever I watch, it usually goes very slowly
and the pictures don't move. Sometimes, the same image could remain on the
screen for more than 5 minutes! Also, sometimes, the sound stops for a bit
and then starts up again. This can get really annoying and frustrating!! For
one channel, it says that the online viewing will work with a minimum speed
of 240 kb/second. What does this mean? And also, what am I doing wrong?
Please send me a reply to vikulya838@yahoo.com Thanks!
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Sebastian Gottschalk
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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Vika wrote:
You because you ask for it? If we would do so, then pretty soon everyone
would call around "Please help" just to get some attention.
| Quote: | BUT whenever I watch, it usually goes very slowly
and the pictures don't move. Sometimes, the same image could remain on the
screen for more than 5 minutes! Also, sometimes, the sound stops for a bit
and then starts up again. This can get really annoying and frustrating!! For
one channel, it says that the online viewing will work with a minimum speed
of 240 kb/second. What does this mean?
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ROFL.
240 KB/s (KByte/s) or KBit/s? Anyway, this is about _bandwidth_ and if your
internet connection doesn't meet this _bandwidth_ requirement, it will
result on not being able to stream data with a big overhead of
prebuffering.
One should assume that you'd know what bandwidth is, you're paying for it.
| Quote: | And also, what am I doing wrong?
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Stupid questions and, even worse, total disrespect of Usenet's social
rules, just like this:
You're able to post here, then you're also able to read.
"I have a question: ...! I don't actually care for the answer, so send it
$somewhere if you like to." isn't a nice behaviour.
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Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
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Vika
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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Wow, Sebastian...you obviously weren't taught your manners. It was a simple
question that I asked. I, however, did not ask for your attitude. "Thank
you", I suppose, but because of your rudeness, I'm not sure if a thank you is
needed. If I am not a computer genius, that doesn't mean that you should call
my question "stupid" and tell me that I'm disrespecting "Usenet's social
rules". How about you disrespecting me? And I didn't ask for your attention,
as I don't need it. I asked for HELP. If you do not understand the meaning of
this word, please, look it up. And what is that supposed to mean? "You
because you ask for it"? Yes, I did ask for help. WOW! I guess that me asking
for help is taboo, right? People need help, okay? So if you could stop
disrespecting me, as I asked a simple question. I did not ask for your help
in particular, so if my question angered you...well, then why did you answer
it? So maybe next time, you could show people some respect. Thanks.
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:51:59 +0100, Sebastian Gottschalk
<seppi@seppig.de> wrote:
| Quote: | Vika wrote:
Please help!
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Please ignore the response from Sebastian below, his etiquette is
mostly non-existent.
| Quote: | You because you ask for it? If we would do so, then pretty soon everyone
would call around "Please help" just to get some attention.
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That's the normal purpose of newsgroups these days - peer support. If
you don't like it you're welcome to find somewhere else to hang out -
the rest of us can carry on helping users without your intervention
being required. Calling people 'stupid' for asking basic support
questions is pointless and counterproductive, so leave it out.
Bye - Neil |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:31:01 -0800, "Vika"
<Vika@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Please help! I'm trying to learn Russian and Ukrainian. I sometims go online
to watch Russian TV online. BUT whenever I watch, it usually goes very slowly
and the pictures don't move. Sometimes, the same image could remain on the
screen for more than 5 minutes! Also, sometimes, the sound stops for a bit
and then starts up again. This can get really annoying and frustrating!! For
one channel, it says that the online viewing will work with a minimum speed
of 240 kb/second. What does this mean? And also, what am I doing wrong?
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If you *know* you have broadband internet connection, with a speed
faster than 240kbps (ask your service provider or check your contract)
then media player may not be detecting your available speed correctly.
To check this, go to the media player program menu.
Choose Tools -> Options -> Performance
If "detect connection speed" is selected, try to select "choose
connection speed" and set it to DSL/Cable (384kbps) or DSL/Cable
(768kbps). Close and restart the player and try again.
If it continues not to work, either your connection is unable to
receive data at the chosen rate, or the russian server is unable to
send data at the rate (240kbps) needed to play the video smoothly.
It's also possible something between you and the russian server is
unable to pass through the data at a stable high speed - there's
unfortunately nothing much you can do in that case.
HTH
Cheers - Neil |
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Sebastian Gottschalk
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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Vika wrote:
| Quote: | If I am not a computer genius, that doesn't mean that you should call
my question "stupid" and tell me that I'm disrespecting "Usenet's social
rules".
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No, I'm telling you that you're disrecptings Usenet's social rules because
you simply did.
| Quote: | How about you disrespecting me?
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Who was the one for asked for eMail-only answers initially? That's really
ridiculous.
You got help. Anyway, you didn't just ask, you cried. And now you
explicitely showed that.
| Quote: | And what is that supposed to mean? "You because you ask for it"?
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An error in writing. Skip the first "you".
| Quote: | Yes, I did ask for help. WOW! I guess that me asking
for help is taboo, right?
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No, it's quite usual to expect help. That's why explicit attention makers
like "Please help" or "Very important/urgent/whatever" or loud crying
("BUT") are a sign of selfishness.
| Quote: | I did not ask for your help in particular, so if my question angered
you...well, then why did you answer it?
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Because I wanted to give you an answer and besides an advice.
| Quote: | So maybe next time, you could show people some respect. Thanks.
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Maybe next time I will simply tell you "You did something wrong" and fup2
nnq? Anyway, that's where this discussion belongs.
And it's also the right place for your lineout defects (did you even bother
to properly format your posting to make it more readable?) and technical
defects (your nickname is "=?Utf-8?B?VmlrYQ==?="?).
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Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
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Sebastian Gottschalk
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:51:59 +0100, Sebastian Gottschalk
seppi@seppig.de> wrote:
Vika wrote:
Please help!
Please ignore the response from Sebastian below, his etiquette is
mostly non-existent.
You because you ask for it? If we would do so, then pretty soon everyone
would call around "Please help" just to get some attention.
That's the normal purpose of newsgroups these days - peer support.
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No, the normal purpose is _discussion_, not support.
Anyway, there is no need to explicitely search for attention with "please
help" or "very important" where in fact it doesn't differ from any other
simple question.
| Quote: | Calling people 'stupid' for asking basic support
questions is pointless and counterproductive, so leave it out.
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#echo {{'grep -f "stupid" news:3j53qf8svplw.dlg@news.cis.dfn.de'==''}}
true
#
Hm... must have left something out. I guess now you're also blaming me for
ridicolous asking for eMail-only answers.
--
Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
Key: 0xA0E28D18 FP: 83AE 1136 1E2B 9767 8FB2 7594 4128 1A9E A0E2 8D18 |
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Vika
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:30 am Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:31:01 -0800, "Vika"
Vika@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Please help! I'm trying to learn Russian and Ukrainian. I sometims go online
to watch Russian TV online. BUT whenever I watch, it usually goes very slowly
and the pictures don't move. Sometimes, the same image could remain on the
screen for more than 5 minutes! Also, sometimes, the sound stops for a bit
and then starts up again. This can get really annoying and frustrating!! For
one channel, it says that the online viewing will work with a minimum speed
of 240 kb/second. What does this mean? And also, what am I doing wrong?
If you *know* you have broadband internet connection, with a speed
faster than 240kbps (ask your service provider or check your contract)
then media player may not be detecting your available speed correctly.
To check this, go to the media player program menu.
Choose Tools -> Options -> Performance
If "detect connection speed" is selected, try to select "choose
connection speed" and set it to DSL/Cable (384kbps) or DSL/Cable
(768kbps). Close and restart the player and try again.
If it continues not to work, either your connection is unable to
receive data at the chosen rate, or the russian server is unable to
send data at the rate (240kbps) needed to play the video smoothly.
It's also possible something between you and the russian server is
unable to pass through the data at a stable high speed - there's
unfortunately nothing much you can do in that case.
HTH
Cheers - Neil
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Thanks for trying Neil! :) But it doesn't show the picture anymore. I have
AOL 9.0 dial-up and WMP 10, if that makes any difference. Anyways, I did the
"connection speed" thing and now I don't get a picture, although I hear
everything perfectly and clearly. I'm actually Ukrainian, but have been
forgetting the language a bit, but one of my friends speaks Ukrainian and she
watches the TV channel on her computer. Is there anything I can do? |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:30 am Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:56:23 +0100, Sebastian Gottschalk
<seppi@seppig.de> wrote:
| Quote: | Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:51:59 +0100, Sebastian Gottschalk
seppi@seppig.de> wrote:
Vika wrote:
Please help!
Please ignore the response from Sebastian below, his etiquette is
mostly non-existent.
You because you ask for it? If we would do so, then pretty soon everyone
would call around "Please help" just to get some attention.
That's the normal purpose of newsgroups these days - peer support.
No, the normal purpose is _discussion_, not support.
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Incorrect. The microsoft.bla stub of newsgroups is intended for peer
support. Go, hang out on the xml newsgroup for a bit and ask a
question you don't know the answer to. You will get first class peer
support rather than a flaming. Try it, you might like it.
| Quote: | Anyway, there is no need to explicitely search for attention with "please
help" or "very important" where in fact it doesn't differ from any other
simple question.
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It's perfectly reasonable to do so in a posting body
[Ref : http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#bespecific]
You're confusing your very slender understanding of newsgroup
etiquette with posting a "Help Me!!!!!" as a subject line, which is
uninformative and generally correctly elicits the sort of reply you
posted.
| Quote: | Calling people 'stupid' for asking basic support
questions is pointless and counterproductive, so leave it out.
#echo {{'grep -f "stupid" news:3j53qf8svplw.dlg@news.cis.dfn.de'==''}}
true
#
Hm... must have left something out. I guess now you're also blaming me for
ridicolous asking for eMail-only answers.
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No, that's lame - but everybody has to start somewhere - or were you
born having the fount of all knowledge regarding newsgroup etiquette ?
[Ref : http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#noprivate]
Cheers - Neil |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:30 am Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:06:03 -0800, "Vika" <vikulya838@yahoo.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:31:01 -0800, "Vika"
Vika@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Please help! I'm trying to learn Russian and Ukrainian. I sometims go online
to watch Russian TV online. BUT whenever I watch, it usually goes very slowly
and the pictures don't move. Sometimes, the same image could remain on the
screen for more than 5 minutes! Also, sometimes, the sound stops for a bit
and then starts up again. This can get really annoying and frustrating!! For
one channel, it says that the online viewing will work with a minimum speed
of 240 kb/second. What does this mean? And also, what am I doing wrong?
If you *know* you have broadband internet connection, with a speed
faster than 240kbps (ask your service provider or check your contract)
then media player may not be detecting your available speed correctly.
To check this, go to the media player program menu.
Choose Tools -> Options -> Performance
If "detect connection speed" is selected, try to select "choose
connection speed" and set it to DSL/Cable (384kbps) or DSL/Cable
(768kbps). Close and restart the player and try again.
If it continues not to work, either your connection is unable to
receive data at the chosen rate, or the russian server is unable to
send data at the rate (240kbps) needed to play the video smoothly.
It's also possible something between you and the russian server is
unable to pass through the data at a stable high speed - there's
unfortunately nothing much you can do in that case.
HTH
Cheers - Neil
Thanks for trying Neil! :) But it doesn't show the picture anymore. I have
AOL 9.0 dial-up and WMP 10, if that makes any difference.
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Yes, it does. I'm afraid you're out of luck - you cannot play live
video (240 kbps) down a dialup pipe (often about 40kbps or less)
Your only option is to use a download manager or right-click the link
and choose "Save-As", save the file not in realtime, then watch it
when it's all downloaded. Or, upgrade to ADSL/Broadband cable ?
HTH
Cheers - Neil
| Quote: | Anyways, I did the
"connection speed" thing and now I don't get a picture, although I hear
everything perfectly and clearly. I'm actually Ukrainian, but have been
forgetting the language a bit, but one of my friends speaks Ukrainian and she
watches the TV channel on her computer. Is there anything I can do? |
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Vika
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:33 am Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:06:03 -0800, "Vika" <vikulya838@yahoo.com
wrote:
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:31:01 -0800, "Vika"
Vika@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Please help! I'm trying to learn Russian and Ukrainian. I sometims go online
to watch Russian TV online. BUT whenever I watch, it usually goes very slowly
and the pictures don't move. Sometimes, the same image could remain on the
screen for more than 5 minutes! Also, sometimes, the sound stops for a bit
and then starts up again. This can get really annoying and frustrating!! For
one channel, it says that the online viewing will work with a minimum speed
of 240 kb/second. What does this mean? And also, what am I doing wrong?
If you *know* you have broadband internet connection, with a speed
faster than 240kbps (ask your service provider or check your contract)
then media player may not be detecting your available speed correctly.
To check this, go to the media player program menu.
Choose Tools -> Options -> Performance
If "detect connection speed" is selected, try to select "choose
connection speed" and set it to DSL/Cable (384kbps) or DSL/Cable
(768kbps). Close and restart the player and try again.
If it continues not to work, either your connection is unable to
receive data at the chosen rate, or the russian server is unable to
send data at the rate (240kbps) needed to play the video smoothly.
It's also possible something between you and the russian server is
unable to pass through the data at a stable high speed - there's
unfortunately nothing much you can do in that case.
HTH
Cheers - Neil
Thanks for trying Neil! :) But it doesn't show the picture anymore. I have
AOL 9.0 dial-up and WMP 10, if that makes any difference.
Yes, it does. I'm afraid you're out of luck - you cannot play live
video (240 kbps) down a dialup pipe (often about 40kbps or less)
Your only option is to use a download manager or right-click the link
and choose "Save-As", save the file not in realtime, then watch it
when it's all downloaded. Or, upgrade to ADSL/Broadband cable ?
HTH
Cheers - Neil
Anyways, I did the
"connection speed" thing and now I don't get a picture, although I hear
everything perfectly and clearly. I'm actually Ukrainian, but have been
forgetting the language a bit, but one of my friends speaks Ukrainian and she
watches the TV channel on her computer. Is there anything I can do?
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Ok, thanks Neil! I'll try to get DSL. Any good company that you might
recommend? And also, what should I do about the picture? Because I still
can't see anything when I play the file even though I was able to see it
before. |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:33:07 -0800, "Vika" <vikulya838@yahoo.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for trying Neil! :) But it doesn't show the picture anymore. I have
AOL 9.0 dial-up and WMP 10, if that makes any difference.
Yes, it does. I'm afraid you're out of luck - you cannot play live
video (240 kbps) down a dialup pipe (often about 40kbps or less)
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| Quote: | Ok, thanks Neil! I'll try to get DSL. Any good company that you might
recommend?
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Not really - it depends where you live !!! I'm in the UK and Telewest
usually seem quite good. NTL are apparently rubbish. Most of the
broadband providers here are in an "arms war" and keep bumping up
their data rates for download, while keeping the prices the same.
Which is a good thing (c)
| Quote: | And also, what should I do about the picture? Because I still
can't see anything when I play the file even though I was able to see it
before. |
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joscurtin
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Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:30 am Post subject:
Re: WMP video files |
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"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:m2ehm15up9l04dv58r1kaojqptto6hvpnl@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:33:07 -0800, "Vika" <vikulya838@yahoo.com
wrote:
Thanks for trying Neil! :) But it doesn't show the picture
anymore. I have
AOL 9.0 dial-up and WMP 10, if that makes any difference.
Yes, it does. I'm afraid you're out of luck - you cannot play
live
video (240 kbps) down a dialup pipe (often about 40kbps or less)
Ok, thanks Neil! I'll try to get DSL. Any good company that you
might
recommend?
Not really - it depends where you live !!! I'm in the UK and
Telewest
usually seem quite good. NTL are apparently rubbish. Most of the
broadband providers here are in an "arms war" and keep bumping up
their data rates for download, while keeping the prices the same.
Which is a good thing (c)
And also, what should I do about the picture? Because I still
can't see anything when I play the file even though I was able to
see it
before.
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I occasionally watch Channel One from Russia, which uses WMP. When you
go to the home page, http://www.1tv.ru/ , and click on "on-line",
another window will open, and the main streaming program will start.
Normally, the video stream is transmitted for about 20 or 22 hours
daily. Ordinarily, if the server is busy, or the station is off the
air, it may seem like nothing is happening, but if you right-click on
the blue "TV screen", and click on "error details'' you will get one
of two error messages: either "Windows Media Player cannot find the
specified file. Be sure the path is typed correctly. If it is, the
file does not exist at the specified location, or the computer where
the file is stored is offline," or "server busy", when too many
people are trying to connect to the server. When I get the latter
message, I just keep trying to reconnect, and in a few minutes
I usually manage to get in, as other users disconnect.
However, I have been unable to connect to the main streaming program
for a while now, and have no information as to why. I just get the
"file does not exist, or computer off the air" error message. It is
still possible to view short news clips from the site, but the main
video stream seems to be off the air for now. For a student of
Russian, the short video clips of news stories, usually about 2
minutes long, are useful, because you can simultaneously view the
video and the text of what is being read by the announcer.
The video and audio quality was quite good. My only complaint would be
that many programs on the station are programs and films originally in
English, and dubbed into Russian. The Russian dubbing seems to be
dubbed over the original English, which you can hear in the
background, and this can be very distracting.
Joe from Massachusetts |
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