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Tony
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:
closed captioning HOW? |
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As a technology support coach at NYCDoE, I am surprised to find that the WMP
for Mac v9 does not automatically open the closed captioning for a downloaded
video. This is a new thread as there was no previous discussion pulled up
from my search. I am working with united streaming video from Discovery
website. Please advise
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Corentin Cras-Méneur
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:30 am Post subject:
Re: closed captioning HOW? |
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Tony <Tony@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | As a technology support coach at NYCDoE, I am surprised to find that the WMP
for Mac v9 does not automatically open the closed captioning for a downloaded
video. This is a new thread as there was no previous discussion pulled up
from my search. I am working with united streaming video from Discovery
website. Please advise
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WMP *should* support CC (as stated on the MS site):
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/software/Macintosh/osx/def
ault.aspx
It could be (yet another) bug though :-\
I've never encountered a file with CC.
Corentin
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blog on MS apps for Mac: http://www.cortig.net/wordpress
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Tony
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:30 am Post subject:
Re: closed captioning HOW? |
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Hi Corentin,
If you are interested, you might want to visit unitedstreaming.com to see a
list of mostly educational video clips to download. As for the WMP
supporting CC, I know it does well with PC version of WMP. But the Mac
version seems to have a problem. And I am trying to find out if anyone else
might have found it to work on Apple.
Can you direct me to any cool site that you know of?
"Corentin Cras-Méneur" wrote:
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject:
Re: closed captioning HOW? |
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:55:49 -0600, korventeen@NoSpam.mvps.org
(Corentin Cras-Méneur) wrote:
| Quote: | Tony <Tony@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
As a technology support coach at NYCDoE, I am surprised to find that the WMP
for Mac v9 does not automatically open the closed captioning for a downloaded
video.
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Yes, it does. Are you sending it as a SAMI file or as script commands?
Are you sure the SAMI file is correctly formed - the parser on PC
seems a little more robust.
Also are you sure you've selected File -> Show Captions from the Mac
WMP menu ? It definitely shows them on my Mini with Tiger and WMP9.
If you're sending as "script commands" (which I'd advise against from
a file maintenance standpoint) have you selected WMP Preferences ->
"Run script commands when present" as well as "Within a web page" ?
| Quote: | This is a new thread as there was no previous discussion pulled up
from my search. I am working with united streaming video from Discovery
website. Please advise
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If you go to http://www.captionkit.com and pick the Photostory video
from the front page, does it show the captions in the caption area now
you've selected "Show Captions" ?
If not maybe we need a chat, because if it doesn't, my site is broke !
http://www.captionkit.com has lots of them ;-))
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Corentin Cras-Méneur
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:
Re: closed captioning HOW? |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] <neil@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | It could be (yet another) bug though :-\
I've never encountered a file with CC.
http://www.captionkit.com has lots of them ;-))
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Right. Thanks a lot for the tip Neil. They show up perfectly on my Mac
:-))
Corentin
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Tony
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:
Re: closed captioning HOW? |
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Neil,
Thanks for mentioning this website. Right now, I just viewed your PhotoStory
clip and saw the captioning come on. Was the program being shown is part of
PhotoShop? I didn't get a chance to view the whole clip yet.
I will have to spend some extra time to make sure that the caption comes on
the Mac version of WMP-9.
How did you get started on the use of captioning?
Tony
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:55:49 -0600, korventeen@NoSpam.mvps.org
(Corentin Cras-Méneur) wrote:
Tony <Tony@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
As a technology support coach at NYCDoE, I am surprised to find that the WMP
for Mac v9 does not automatically open the closed captioning for a downloaded
video.
Yes, it does. Are you sending it as a SAMI file or as script commands?
Are you sure the SAMI file is correctly formed - the parser on PC
seems a little more robust.
Also are you sure you've selected File -> Show Captions from the Mac
WMP menu ? It definitely shows them on my Mini with Tiger and WMP9.
If you're sending as "script commands" (which I'd advise against from
a file maintenance standpoint) have you selected WMP Preferences -
"Run script commands when present" as well as "Within a web page" ?
This is a new thread as there was no previous discussion pulled up
from my search. I am working with united streaming video from Discovery
website. Please advise
If you go to http://www.captionkit.com and pick the Photostory video
from the front page, does it show the captions in the caption area now
you've selected "Show Captions" ?
If not maybe we need a chat, because if it doesn't, my site is broke !
WMP *should* support CC (as stated on the MS site):
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/software/Macintosh/osx/def
ault.aspx
It could be (yet another) bug though :-\
I've never encountered a file with CC.
http://www.captionkit.com has lots of them ;-))
Corentin
WMP FAQ: http://www.cortig.net/wordpress/?page_id=30
blog on MS apps for Mac: http://www.cortig.net/wordpress
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:
Re: closed captioning HOW? |
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:50:11 -0800, "Tony"
<Tony@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Neil,
Thanks for mentioning this website. Right now, I just viewed your PhotoStory
clip and saw the captioning come on. Was the program being shown is part of
PhotoShop? I didn't get a chance to view the whole clip yet.
I will have to spend some extra time to make sure that the caption comes on
the Mac version of WMP-9.
How did you get started on the use of captioning?
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Dunno really. I had a lot of spare time between jobs, and looking
around, I had to consider that from an accessibilty standpoint, HOH
users and foreign language speakers are *very* poorly provided for
with online video. It seemed like a good 'pet project' to write.
I guess really, there's no good publishing system out there I can find
to publish captioned media for the layman. It's all like "buy our
software" (though Magpie is free) then "host it yourself" once you've
worked out how to manage the caption file storage and player matching.
And if you change the video player format, well you'd better "go off
and re-caption it". It didn't seem like a good way of working IMO.
I tried to make things a bit more joined up here. You can host the
video <wherever> and let the site manage the hookup and publishing of
captions, video indexes and so on without the viewer needing to know
anything's happening in the background.
In some ways it's a "metaservice" since the caption file used by any
one player type never exists as-is, it's generated from a XML file
held in the DB.
That means you can transition from a QT to a Real or WM video, change
the video URL and your captions stay the same, they're just
re-rendered for the new player type.
I'll be making the site tools free in a few weeks (have to tear down
some payment scripts first) because the takeup has been extremely
limited over 18 months - apart from the fact the captioning tool is
only designed to work in IE on PC ;-) Maybe then there will be a few
more contributors.
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"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:55:49 -0600, korventeen@NoSpam.mvps.org
(Corentin Cras-Méneur) wrote:
Tony <Tony@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
As a technology support coach at NYCDoE, I am surprised to find that the WMP
for Mac v9 does not automatically open the closed captioning for a downloaded
video.
Yes, it does. Are you sending it as a SAMI file or as script commands?
Are you sure the SAMI file is correctly formed - the parser on PC
seems a little more robust.
Also are you sure you've selected File -> Show Captions from the Mac
WMP menu ? It definitely shows them on my Mini with Tiger and WMP9.
If you're sending as "script commands" (which I'd advise against from
a file maintenance standpoint) have you selected WMP Preferences -
"Run script commands when present" as well as "Within a web page" ?
This is a new thread as there was no previous discussion pulled up
from my search. I am working with united streaming video from Discovery
website. Please advise
If you go to http://www.captionkit.com and pick the Photostory video
from the front page, does it show the captions in the caption area now
you've selected "Show Captions" ?
If not maybe we need a chat, because if it doesn't, my site is broke !
WMP *should* support CC (as stated on the MS site):
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/software/Macintosh/osx/def
ault.aspx
It could be (yet another) bug though :-\
I've never encountered a file with CC.
http://www.captionkit.com has lots of them ;-))
Corentin
WMP FAQ: http://www.cortig.net/wordpress/?page_id=30
blog on MS apps for Mac: http://www.cortig.net/wordpress
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Corentin Cras-Méneur
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:
Re: closed captioning HOW? |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] <neil@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I'll be making the site tools free in a few weeks (have to tear down
some payment scripts first) because the takeup has been extremely
limited over 18 months - apart from the fact the captioning tool is
only designed to work in IE on PC ;-) Maybe then there will be a few
more contributors.
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Good luck with that then :-))
Corentin
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