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jonmrich
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:30 am    Post subject: Embedded Media Issue Reply with quote

If I go to this test page for an embedded file:
http://jrzycrim.sitesled.com/mozilla/wmp/vidtest-HS.html
The file does not play, nor do any player controls appear. All that I get
is a little red "X" in the upper left hand corner. What is causing this? I
tried to use this test to diagnose a problem with playback and based on this,
I must have some major issues. Any ideas?

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jonmrich
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Embedded Media Issue Reply with quote

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:42:03 -0800, "jonmrich"
jonmrich@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

If I go to this test page for an embedded file:
http://jrzycrim.sitesled.com/mozilla/wmp/vidtest-HS.html
The file does not play, nor do any player controls appear. All that I get
is a little red "X" in the upper left hand corner. What is causing this? I
tried to use this test to diagnose a problem with playback and based on this,
I must have some major issues. Any ideas?


It works in firefox. Did you mean in IE ? You've omitted the ClassID
parameter which IE uses to determine which plugin to load.

Although that's perfectly valid XHTML, IE uses older HTML4 methods to
determine the plugin. So you need to add

classid="clsid:6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6"

as an attribute of the object tag.

In addition you'll need to use <param /> elements to tell IE where to
get the object data. Param is a perfectly valid object child element.

Between your object tags add

param name="url"
value="http://members.aol.com/jrzycrim01/mozilla/wmp/vidtest-HS.wmv"
/

HTH
Cheers - Neil


Neil,

Thanks for the reply. I can't get this page to work in Firefox or IE. Your
explanation sounds useful, but I am not quite at the level that your
directions would help. That is, I don't really understand your instructions,
as I am a bit more of a computer novice. Can you walk me through this a bit?
I think this may be a WMP problem versus a browser issue. Do you know of
another more appropriate site to test an embedded media file with IE and WMP?

Thanks,
JMR
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Embedded Media Issue Reply with quote

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:42:03 -0800, "jonmrich"
<jonmrich@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

Quote:
If I go to this test page for an embedded file:
http://jrzycrim.sitesled.com/mozilla/wmp/vidtest-HS.html
The file does not play, nor do any player controls appear. All that I get
is a little red "X" in the upper left hand corner. What is causing this? I
tried to use this test to diagnose a problem with playback and based on this,
I must have some major issues. Any ideas?


It works in firefox. Did you mean in IE ? You've omitted the ClassID
parameter which IE uses to determine which plugin to load.

Although that's perfectly valid XHTML, IE uses older HTML4 methods to
determine the plugin. So you need to add

classid="clsid:6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6"

as an attribute of the object tag.

In addition you'll need to use <param /> elements to tell IE where to
get the object data. Param is a perfectly valid object child element.

Between your object tags add

<param name="url"
value="http://members.aol.com/jrzycrim01/mozilla/wmp/vidtest-HS.wmv"
/>

HTH
Cheers - Neil

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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Embedded Media Issue Reply with quote

On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:46:02 -0800, "jonmrich"
<jonmrich@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

Quote:
If I go to this test page for an embedded file:
http://jrzycrim.sitesled.com/mozilla/wmp/vidtest-HS.html
The file does not play, nor do any player controls appear. All that I get
is a little red "X" in the upper left hand corner. What is causing this? I
tried to use this test to diagnose a problem with playback and based on this,
I must have some major issues. Any ideas?


It works in firefox. Did you mean in IE ? You've omitted the ClassID
parameter which IE uses to determine which plugin to load.

Although that's perfectly valid XHTML, IE uses older HTML4 methods to
determine the plugin. So you need to add

classid="clsid:6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6"

as an attribute of the object tag.

In addition you'll need to use <param /> elements to tell IE where to
get the object data. Param is a perfectly valid object child element.

Between your object tags add

param name="url"
value="http://members.aol.com/jrzycrim01/mozilla/wmp/vidtest-HS.wmv"
/

HTH
Cheers - Neil


Neil,

Thanks for the reply. I can't get this page to work in Firefox or IE. Your
explanation sounds useful, but I am not quite at the level that your
directions would help. That is, I don't really understand your instructions,
as I am a bit more of a computer novice. Can you walk me through this a bit?
I think this may be a WMP problem versus a browser issue. Do you know of
another more appropriate site to test an embedded media file with IE and WMP?

OK scratch that (the original code you have should work in Firefox,
and does for me - which version do you have ?). The code there won't
work in IE for a variety of reasons which I guess I could explain but
you might not "get" ;-))

Something I've been putting off for a bit and is due to be tackled is
this whole embedding in Firefox + IE + other browsers malarkey.
To be honest, it's a bit awkward so I'm going to look at it detail.

If you can wait maybe a week or so I should have something more
workable (I hope) but it's likely to be quite complicated.

Cheers o- Neil
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jonmrich
Guest





Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Embedded Media Issue Reply with quote

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

Quote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:46:02 -0800, "jonmrich"
jonmrich@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

If I go to this test page for an embedded file:
http://jrzycrim.sitesled.com/mozilla/wmp/vidtest-HS.html
The file does not play, nor do any player controls appear. All that I get
is a little red "X" in the upper left hand corner. What is causing this? I
tried to use this test to diagnose a problem with playback and based on this,
I must have some major issues. Any ideas?


It works in firefox. Did you mean in IE ? You've omitted the ClassID
parameter which IE uses to determine which plugin to load.

Although that's perfectly valid XHTML, IE uses older HTML4 methods to
determine the plugin. So you need to add

classid="clsid:6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6"

as an attribute of the object tag.

In addition you'll need to use <param /> elements to tell IE where to
get the object data. Param is a perfectly valid object child element.

Between your object tags add

param name="url"
value="http://members.aol.com/jrzycrim01/mozilla/wmp/vidtest-HS.wmv"
/

HTH
Cheers - Neil


Neil,

Thanks for the reply. I can't get this page to work in Firefox or IE. Your
explanation sounds useful, but I am not quite at the level that your
directions would help. That is, I don't really understand your instructions,
as I am a bit more of a computer novice. Can you walk me through this a bit?
I think this may be a WMP problem versus a browser issue. Do you know of
another more appropriate site to test an embedded media file with IE and WMP?

OK scratch that (the original code you have should work in Firefox,
and does for me - which version do you have ?). The code there won't
work in IE for a variety of reasons which I guess I could explain but
you might not "get" ;-))

Something I've been putting off for a bit and is due to be tackled is
this whole embedding in Firefox + IE + other browsers malarkey.
To be honest, it's a bit awkward so I'm going to look at it detail.

If you can wait maybe a week or so I should have something more
workable (I hope) but it's likely to be quite complicated.

Cheers o- Neil

I'll certainly look forward to the response. I have FF v. 1.5. When I try

the same page in FF, I get some non-functioning parts of the MP including a
play, pause and volume buttons with black underneath. Suffice it to say, the
video doesn't play. I have been through a thousand messages and I know I am
not the only one with this problem, but no one seems to have the solution.

Thanks,
JMR
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
Guest





Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Embedded Media Issue Reply with quote

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:31:56 -0800, "jonmrich"
<jonmrich@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

I think actually reviewing this conversation I've completely
misunderstood your intention. I thought (somehow) that the web page
was yours and you needed help in getting it to work in IE and Firefox.

It appears instead you're having problems with any web page having
embedded WM video in FF. So let's start again (sorry for wasting your
time !)

First of all, which version of media player do you have installed ?
You can check by going in media player menu Help -> About...

Secondly : You are describing I think two different aspects of the
same problem. You say in IE you have a red (X) in the corner of where
you'd expect a 320x320 size video window to be ?

OK in IE it could be possible you've turned off ActiveX controls for
security reasons. To check this : Go to IE, Tools -> Internet Options
menu. Click the Advanced tab. Scroll down that list :

When you get to Multimedia, ensure "Play videos in web pages" is
checked. OK out of that. Next, have a look at the security options for
the internet zone (click the Security tab, then Internet, then the
"Custom Level" button).

On that list, under "Run ActiveX controls" ensure that's set to Enable
or Prompt. OK out of that and restart the browser. See if visiting
that page displays the video area without the red X, which indicates
either a broken or disabled ActiveX control.

If it still shows a red X, and you're on XP, you can try the Add-on
manager in IE. Go to Tools -> Manage Add Ons, and select "Add ons that
have been used by internet explorer". Down the very bottom of that
list, you should see "Windows Media Player" twice, as well as
something to do with DRM.

Click each one in turn, and ensure that the "Settings" radio button
below the list shows Enabled for each one (if it doesn't, set it to
enabled)

========
In firefox, I can image you got to the test page below via this page
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206213#CheckWMP

So in the about:plugins page, did you see the listed WMP plugins
(npdsplay.dll etc etc)

If not, then you need to add those to Firefox. First open an explorer
window, and find the Windows Media Player folder on your computer.
It's likely to be in Program Files.

In that folder, you should be able to see these 3 files :

npdsplay.dll
npdrmv2.dll
npwmsdrm.dll

(If not, they are in a 2 zip files called npds.zip and npdrmv2.zip :
Unzip those into the media player directory).

Now, copy those 3 files. Go to your Firefox install directory, and
then find the Plugins directory. Paste the 3 files into there.

If you restart Firefox then go to the about:plugins page, you should
see those windows media componets active now. I'd recheck the test
page to see if that worked, if not we'll have some other stuff to
check.


HTH
Cheers - Neil

Quote:
If I go to this test page for an embedded file:
http://jrzycrim.sitesled.com/mozilla/wmp/vidtest-HS.html
The file does not play, nor do any player controls appear. All that I get
is a little red "X" in the upper left hand corner.

Thanks for the reply. I can't get this page to work in Firefox or IE.

another more appropriate site to test an embedded media file with IE and WMP?

I'll certainly look forward to the response. I have FF v. 1.5. When I try
the same page in FF, I get some non-functioning parts of the MP including a
play, pause and volume buttons with black underneath. Suffice it to say, the
video doesn't play. I have been through a thousand messages and I know I am
not the only one with this problem, but no one seems to have the solution.
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