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Jeff
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:30 am Post subject:
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hey all, my internet explorer keeps freezing up whenever I try to play videos
via windows media player. I have tried installing a new version of WMP, but
that didn't help. It's very frustrating at this point. Please help!
Jeff
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Sebastian Gottschalk
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:30 am Post subject:
Re: Media Player won't play videos on webpages |
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Jeff wrote:
| Quote: | hey all, my internet explorer keeps freezing up whenever I try to play videos
via windows media player. I have tried installing a new version of WMP, but
that didn't help. It's very frustrating at this point. Please help!
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If you're using IE on the web, you must assume that your system was
compromised; and malware can have about any effect on your system. So why
do you wonder at all?
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:30 am Post subject:
Re: Media Player won't play videos on webpages |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:28:15 +0200, Sebastian Gottschalk
<seppi@seppig.de> wrote:
| Quote: | Jeff wrote:
hey all, my internet explorer keeps freezing up whenever I try to play videos
via windows media player. I have tried installing a new version of WMP, but
that didn't help. It's very frustrating at this point. Please help!
If you're using IE on the web, you must assume that your system was
compromised; and malware can have about any effect on your system. So why
do you wonder at all?
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Sebastian, please can I ask you respectfully to consider the reality
of the browser culture available to users, and work within the current
practical, real-world limitations.
I find that your proposal that the whole world conforms to standards
which are not supported in any browser is counterproductive to
assisting users in solving their problems.
If you wish to discuss IE as a browser, I'd agree it's considerably
sub-standard. However not everybody has your capability to see the
benefits of alternate browsers, and to appreciate that limitations in
functionality are in some cases beneficial.
In other words, please take your browser war elsewhere, it's not
wanted or appropriate here - this forum is for discussion of windows
media used on the web.
Thankyou
Cheers - Neil
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Sebastian Gottschalk
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:30 am Post subject:
Re: Media Player won't play videos on webpages |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
| Quote: | hey all, my internet explorer keeps freezing up whenever I try to play videos
via windows media player. I have tried installing a new version of WMP, but
that didn't help. It's very frustrating at this point. Please help!
If you're using IE on the web, you must assume that your system was
compromised; and malware can have about any effect on your system. So why
do you wonder at all?
Sebastian, please can I ask you respectfully to consider the reality
of the browser culture available to users, and work within the current
practical, real-world limitations.
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But then you should consider the reality with of internet. IE has at least
50 unpatched critical security holes, some are even without workaround.
Exploits can be found via Google Ads or alike on almost every legitime
website and Man-In-The-Middle attacks on encrypted HTTP are trivial to
launch. Trojans like Gaobot are nearly impossible to detect, even for
professionals. Consequence: One must _reasonably_ assume that the system is
compromised when IE was used on the web.
And sure, that's a very bad thing.
| Quote: | In other words, please take your browser war elsewhere, it's not
wanted or appropriate here - this forum is for discussion of windows
media used on the web.
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Nah, it's just the matter of security. One must also reasonably assume
system compromise after using OE, Outlook, MS Office on non-trusted files,
Windows/MSN Messenger, ICQ(| Lite), mIRC, Norton stuff... and with a
compromised system you do have an probable, easily explainable but
hard-to-diagnostic vector of reason of error.
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Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:29 pm Post subject:
Re: Media Player won't play videos on webpages |
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:19:43 +0200, Sebastian Gottschalk
<seppi@seppig.de> wrote:
| Quote: | Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
Sebastian, please can I ask you respectfully to consider the reality
of the browser culture available to users, and work within the current
practical, real-world limitations.
But then you should consider the reality with of internet. IE has at least
50 unpatched critical security holes, some are even without workaround.
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You've missed the point - which is "I don't care"**
I'm here to discuss media subjects not browser bash.
Bye,
Neil
** Though I don't use it myself, I couldn't care less about IEs
security problems *in here*, because they don't relate to the topic of
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Sebastian Gottschalk
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Media Player won't play videos on webpages |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
| Quote: | ** Though I don't use it myself, I couldn't care less about IEs
security problems *in here*, because they don't relate to the topic of
this group.
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But they relate to the problem - I you can assume that your system is
running malware, then it will also affect WMP and, if it is the cause,
obviously uselss to diagnostic. And this is a common problem.
--
Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
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zachd [ms]
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:01 pm Post subject:
Re: Media Player won't play videos on webpages |
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"Sebastian Gottschalk" <seppi@seppig.de> wrote in message
news:ootl42o845yi.dlg@news.cis.dfn.de...
| Quote: | Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
** Though I don't use it myself, I couldn't care less about IEs
security problems *in here*, because they don't relate to the topic of
this group.
But they relate to the problem - I you can assume that your system is
running malware, then it will also affect WMP and, if it is the cause,
obviously uselss to diagnostic. And this is a common problem.
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Actually, that's a false correlation. I'm unaware of any malware that
targets WMP to not work properly in web pages, and I'm betting that you
aren't either. If you have any positive correlation (say that CoolWebSearch
variant #186 deliberately breaks WMP embedding) then there would be value in
your comments. As it stands, your comments don't actually have any
relevance.
I work with and defang malware from time to time. Your comments are simply
off-base and not helpful to the user, sorry. If there IS some relevance in
your commentary, please do share with me what malware is doing what to WMP
settings, since I would possibly need to account for that nastiness in the
future.
Regards,
-Zach
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(speaking for myself and doing this in my free time)
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Now Playing: "Silent Running" by "Mike + the Mechanics" in WMP10. |
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Sebastian Gottschalk
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:29 pm Post subject:
Re: Media Player won't play videos on webpages |
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zachd [ms] wrote:
| Quote: | But they relate to the problem - I you can assume that your system is
running malware, then it will also affect WMP and, if it is the cause,
obviously uselss to diagnostic. And this is a common problem.
Actually, that's a false correlation. I'm unaware of any malware that
targets WMP to not work properly in web pages, and I'm betting that you
aren't either.
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Targeting is not needed. The malware simply needs to break some system
functions, as most trojans do.
| Quote: | If you have any positive correlation (say that CoolWebSearch
variant #186 deliberately breaks WMP embedding) then there would be value in
your comments.
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Gaobot does break about everything on network connection from time to time.
--
Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
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Jeff
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Sun May 01, 2005 12:30 am Post subject:
Re: Media Player won't play videos on webpages |
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Thanks, that probably the most pointless conversation I have ever read.
While you guys are debating the security features of various internet
browsing software, I am still stuck with this problem. You all have been a
big help. Take your petty little argument somewhere else, asses!
"Sebastian Gottschalk" wrote:
| Quote: | zachd [ms] wrote:
But they relate to the problem - I you can assume that your system is
running malware, then it will also affect WMP and, if it is the cause,
obviously uselss to diagnostic. And this is a common problem.
Actually, that's a false correlation. I'm unaware of any malware that
targets WMP to not work properly in web pages, and I'm betting that you
aren't either.
Targeting is not needed. The malware simply needs to break some system
functions, as most trojans do.
If you have any positive correlation (say that CoolWebSearch
variant #186 deliberately breaks WMP embedding) then there would be value in
your comments.
Gaobot does break about everything on network connection from time to time.
--
Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
Key: 0xA0E28D18 FP: 83AE 1136 1E2B 9767 8FB2 7594 4128 1A9E A0E2 8D18
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Sun May 01, 2005 6:28 am Post subject:
Re: Media Player won't play videos on webpages |
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OK mr. high-and-bloody-mighty, why dont you start by providing some
facts then :
1) Prevous verison of media player installed
2) Current version of media player installed
3) Version number of internet explorer
4) Operating system used
5) Specific websites used to test your assertion
6) How you have determined the problem is reproducible.
7) Steps to reproduce the problem (with screenshots where available)
Maybe if you can satisfactorily answer the above questions, we'll
offer targeted help. But I sure think offering only rudeness to group
users is only going to end up with an off-base response.
Thanks.
Neil
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:45:12 -0700, "Jeff"
<Jeff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks, that probably the most pointless conversation I have ever read.
While you guys are debating the security features of various internet
browsing software, I am still stuck with this problem. You all have been a
big help. Take your petty little argument somewhere else, asses!
"Sebastian Gottschalk" wrote:
zachd [ms] wrote:
But they relate to the problem - I you can assume that your system is
running malware, then it will also affect WMP and, if it is the cause,
obviously uselss to diagnostic. And this is a common problem.
Actually, that's a false correlation. I'm unaware of any malware that
targets WMP to not work properly in web pages, and I'm betting that you
aren't either.
Targeting is not needed. The malware simply needs to break some system
functions, as most trojans do.
If you have any positive correlation (say that CoolWebSearch
variant #186 deliberately breaks WMP embedding) then there would be value in
your comments.
Gaobot does break about everything on network connection from time to time.
--
Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
Key: 0xA0E28D18 FP: 83AE 1136 1E2B 9767 8FB2 7594 4128 1A9E A0E2 8D18
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zachd [ms]
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Thu May 05, 2005 12:30 am Post subject:
Re: Media Player won't play videos on webpages |
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What Jeff said, or:
http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#isolate
-Z
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(speaking for myself and doing this in my free time)
See http://www.zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Now Playing: "Funk U Up" by "Martini Bros." in WMP10.
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"Jeff" <Jeff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4B82AA78-9721-4CDF-B980-3D77FF298D66@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Thanks, that probably the most pointless conversation I have ever read.
While you guys are debating the security features of various internet
browsing software, I am still stuck with this problem. You all have been
a
big help. Take your petty little argument somewhere else, asses!
"Sebastian Gottschalk" wrote:
zachd [ms] wrote:
But they relate to the problem - I you can assume that your system is
running malware, then it will also affect WMP and, if it is the cause,
obviously uselss to diagnostic. And this is a common problem.
Actually, that's a false correlation. I'm unaware of any malware that
targets WMP to not work properly in web pages, and I'm betting that you
aren't either.
Targeting is not needed. The malware simply needs to break some system
functions, as most trojans do.
If you have any positive correlation (say that CoolWebSearch
variant #186 deliberately breaks WMP embedding) then there would be
value in
your comments.
Gaobot does break about everything on network connection from time to
time.
--
Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
Key: 0xA0E28D18 FP: 83AE 1136 1E2B 9767 8FB2 7594 4128 1A9E A0E2 8D18
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