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jimmy
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Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:05 am Post subject:
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I have been wanting to record video, take it with me to show other people-
basically, share media with people, but on their tv, as this is the most
universal form of the way we 'consume' this media. Well, I have come to the
conclusion that with my computer, I can capture glitch-free with only one
program. Windows Media Encoder. I check the box to temporarily save captured
content to the hard drive so I get every frame if and when the process gets
difficult for my cpu. My next step towards getting this media onto someone's
tv is to convert the captured video to a format viewable on something that
can connect to a tv. In my case, I want something cheap and yet something
that can be sort of portable. I could drag my whole computer to people's
houses, but I found a dvd/divx/mpeg4 player that weighs 7 lbs. Since it can
play mpeg4, and WME can capture in the mpeg4 format immediately, that's like
killing 2 birds. I jumped at the opportunity to pursue the final steps in
getting the media to the dvd player. I realized it doesn't support any of the
forms of WM9.1 audio, so I need to find a way to convert the audio track to
mp3.
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject:
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You could of course kill 3 birds with one stone by getting a Porable
Meda Center device - that way it ways rather less than 7lbs (in fact,
less than 1lb) ...
Convert your content straight from windows media player to the device
then take it round their house.... and plug it into their TV ;-) Or,
connect it to your media center PC if you have one, and sync the
recorded TV content from there.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devices/portablemediacenter/video.mspx
Cheers - Neil
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:05:03 -0700, "jimmy"
<jimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I have been wanting to record video, take it with me to show other people-
basically, share media with people, but on their tv, as this is the most
universal form of the way we 'consume' this media. Well, I have come to the
conclusion that with my computer, I can capture glitch-free with only one
program. Windows Media Encoder. I check the box to temporarily save captured
content to the hard drive so I get every frame if and when the process gets
difficult for my cpu. My next step towards getting this media onto someone's
tv is to convert the captured video to a format viewable on something that
can connect to a tv. In my case, I want something cheap and yet something
that can be sort of portable. I could drag my whole computer to people's
houses, but I found a dvd/divx/mpeg4 player that weighs 7 lbs. Since it can
play mpeg4, and WME can capture in the mpeg4 format immediately, that's like
killing 2 birds. I jumped at the opportunity to pursue the final steps in
getting the media to the dvd player. I realized it doesn't support any of the
forms of WM9.1 audio, so I need to find a way to convert the audio track to
mp3. |
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jimmy
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Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:33 pm Post subject:
Re: WMV 9.1 audio- can I convert it to mp3? |
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That thing is too expensive. I don't think it plays 640x480 resolutions
either.
I could spend 200, get a hardware encoder for divx, and get a divx player.
But I don't have 200. I have only enough for the divx player. There's got to
be a way to take the WMa stream, convert it to mp3, and all while in the
perfect package alongside the video stream. Like Virtual Dub, only VDub needs
WMV support.
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
| Quote: | You could of course kill 3 birds with one stone by getting a Porable
Meda Center device - that way it ways rather less than 7lbs (in fact,
less than 1lb) ...
Convert your content straight from windows media player to the device
then take it round their house.... and plug it into their TV ;-) Or,
connect it to your media center PC if you have one, and sync the
recorded TV content from there.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devices/portablemediacenter/video.mspx
Cheers - Neil
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:05:03 -0700, "jimmy"
jimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
I have been wanting to record video, take it with me to show other people-
basically, share media with people, but on their tv, as this is the most
universal form of the way we 'consume' this media. Well, I have come to the
conclusion that with my computer, I can capture glitch-free with only one
program. Windows Media Encoder. I check the box to temporarily save captured
content to the hard drive so I get every frame if and when the process gets
difficult for my cpu. My next step towards getting this media onto someone's
tv is to convert the captured video to a format viewable on something that
can connect to a tv. In my case, I want something cheap and yet something
that can be sort of portable. I could drag my whole computer to people's
houses, but I found a dvd/divx/mpeg4 player that weighs 7 lbs. Since it can
play mpeg4, and WME can capture in the mpeg4 format immediately, that's like
killing 2 birds. I jumped at the opportunity to pursue the final steps in
getting the media to the dvd player. I realized it doesn't support any of the
forms of WM9.1 audio, so I need to find a way to convert the audio track to
mp3.
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MS
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Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:07 am Post subject:
Re: WMV 9.1 audio- can I convert it to mp3? |
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"jimmy" <jimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:11224D2E-D91E-4ACD-8447-CF94C004F2CD@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | That thing is too expensive. I don't think it plays 640x480 resolutions
either.
I could spend 200, get a hardware encoder for divx, and get a divx player.
But I don't have 200. I have only enough for the divx player. There's got
to
be a way to take the WMa stream, convert it to mp3, and all while in the
perfect package alongside the video stream. Like Virtual Dub, only VDub
needs
WMV support.
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I'm not quite sure I understand exactly what you are asking to do. However,
if this helps, you can use wmv compression with Vdub.
Do a search on the Microsoft web site, for WMV9-VCM, and download and
install that program. It installs WMV9 compression as a VFW codec, that will
work with any video program that uses VFW codecs, such as Vdub.
If you want to open and save files with the extension WMV in Vdub, no, that
will not work. When you save in Vdub using WMV-VCM it is saved as an AVI
file, but using WMV compression. If you use VDubMod you can also save as OGM
or Matroska, which have some benefits over AVI, such as chapter support.
And yes--if you make an AVI file in Vdub using WMV9 compression, you can
use MP3 for the sound. In fact, I don't know of a way to use WMA sound in
Vdub. (I don't think there is anything similar to WMV-VCM out for audio yet,
an WMA-ACM.)
For converting audio from one format to another, I find one of the best
programs (freeware) is:
www.dbpoweramp.com
Great program. Make sure to install their WMA codec pack (also free).
Specifically for audio that goes with video a much-used audio
conversion-compression program is BeSweet. It is a command-line program, but
there is a GUI available for it, BeSweetGUI, which makes it much easier to
use, not needing to know the command line switches for it. I don't know the
URLs for it, I'm sure you could find it on the Internet. Both completely
free.
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"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
You could of course kill 3 birds with one stone by getting a Porable
Meda Center device - that way it ways rather less than 7lbs (in fact,
less than 1lb) ...
Convert your content straight from windows media player to the device
then take it round their house.... and plug it into their TV ;-) Or,
connect it to your media center PC if you have one, and sync the
recorded TV content from there.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devices/portablemediacenter/video.mspx
Cheers - Neil
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:05:03 -0700, "jimmy"
jimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
I have been wanting to record video, take it with me to show other
people-
basically, share media with people, but on their tv, as this is the
most
universal form of the way we 'consume' this media. Well, I have come to
the
conclusion that with my computer, I can capture glitch-free with only
one
program. Windows Media Encoder. I check the box to temporarily save
captured
content to the hard drive so I get every frame if and when the process
gets
difficult for my cpu. My next step towards getting this media onto
someone's
tv is to convert the captured video to a format viewable on something
that
can connect to a tv. In my case, I want something cheap and yet
something
that can be sort of portable. I could drag my whole computer to
people's
houses, but I found a dvd/divx/mpeg4 player that weighs 7 lbs. Since it
can
play mpeg4, and WME can capture in the mpeg4 format immediately, that's
like
killing 2 birds. I jumped at the opportunity to pursue the final steps
in
getting the media to the dvd player. I realized it doesn't support any
of the
forms of WM9.1 audio, so I need to find a way to convert the audio
track to
mp3.
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MS
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Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:19 am Post subject:
Re: WMV 9.1 audio- can I convert it to mp3? |
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I just posted another response to you, concerning audio conversion.
Now seeing your original post, I have a totally unrelated comment to what I
wrote before:
To share video with other people, why buy a box to carry around to other
people's houses, connect all the wires, etc.?
Most people have a box attached to their TV called a "DVD player". They come
very cheap these days, you can even get one for $30 or so.
If your current computer setup does not include a DVD burner, I would
suggest you invest in a DVD burner, rather than this other box you mention.
Most DVD burners will come with software for authoring and burning DVDs.
Make a DVD of the video you wish to share, and give the person you want to
share with a DVD, a small thin disc. You could even mail them to people.
That would seem a lot simpler than carrying a box around to connect to other
people's TVs.
If you don't have a DVD burner, but have a CD burner, you can also burn
video CDs. Of course, having a lot smaller capacity than a DVD, the video
has to be much more compressed to fit on a CD, or sometimes two CDs are
needed. Also, not all DVD players will play VCDs. Some will, some won't. I
think probably all computers (certainly those running Windows) can play
VCDs, but you would like the video to be viewable on a TV, to which most
people have a DVD player attached.
I would suggest for maximum compatibility burn to DVD. I would suggest using
discs in the DVD-R format, if your burner supports those. (Not all home DVD
players will read discs in the DVD+R format, I think the -R format is more
compatible.)
"jimmy" <jimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BCDB83F1-C941-45DB-84BD-525CBBC71F75@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | I have been wanting to record video, take it with me to show other people-
basically, share media with people, but on their tv, as this is the most
universal form of the way we 'consume' this media. Well, I have come to
the
conclusion that with my computer, I can capture glitch-free with only one
program. Windows Media Encoder. I check the box to temporarily save
captured
content to the hard drive so I get every frame if and when the process
gets
difficult for my cpu. My next step towards getting this media onto
someone's
tv is to convert the captured video to a format viewable on something that
can connect to a tv. In my case, I want something cheap and yet something
that can be sort of portable. I could drag my whole computer to people's
houses, but I found a dvd/divx/mpeg4 player that weighs 7 lbs. Since it
can
play mpeg4, and WME can capture in the mpeg4 format immediately, that's
like
killing 2 birds. I jumped at the opportunity to pursue the final steps in
getting the media to the dvd player. I realized it doesn't support any of
the
forms of WM9.1 audio, so I need to find a way to convert the audio track
to
mp3. |
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jimmy
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Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:39 am Post subject:
Re: WMV 9.1 audio- can I convert it to mp3? |
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I HAVE heard of a DVD player, just by strange coincidence. I have heard of
burners, also. You don't seem to be of much help to me. I have installed wmv
vcm and still have no wmv compatibility in vdub or vdub mod.
The reason I don't burn dvd's is because it takes another 2-3-4+ ? hours
just transocding the files. I want something I can record, burn, and take
with me. 5-10 pounds is fine.
I also have dbpower amp, and the wmv support update, and that doesn't work
for me either. Maybe it's just me. Doesn't like me. :(
I may just get a laptop.
I bought a dvd player a few days ago, because I have an 80gig hdd running
out. Movies/tv clips are my main space taker upper. :/ My main thing is I
want to be able to have the media at my fingertips, and the dvd burner is not
really for burning acual dvd's, but for burning data dvd's, because of the
transcoding. I want to be able to take a dvd around with me, but I'm just now
about to get a fulltime job! I hope I get it- A laptop with tv/headphone outs
is good enough for me, plus I can store 100+gigs on one, and all in whatever
resolution and whatever codec I want. A Laptop is the most universal problem
solver for me. Thanks for the help; even though it didn't work for me. Thanks
for showing interest. ;) |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:03 pm Post subject:
Re: WMV 9.1 audio- can I convert it to mp3? |
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I don't unserstand : Here you've said you don't have £200 to spend on
it. And yet below in your response to MS you're saying (1) it takes
too long for you to burn a DVD and so (2) You might buy a laptop.
Now forgive me for saying this but I think you're just being awkward -
either you have more than £200 to buy a laptop, or you don't.
My suggestion for a portable device is a PMC, I agree it doesn't meet
your newly stated reqiurement for 640x480 (on its built in screen).
But unless you're using it on a HDTV set, when you plug it into a
standard RF TV set, I'd expect the picture quality would match or
exceed that of a VHS video.
The only realistic way to get better quality *and* portability *and*
universal compatibility IMO is to burn either a DVD, or for short
programs (45 minutes or so) burn a SVCD, which has higher quality than
a VCD.
Cheers - Neil
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:33:01 -0700, "jimmy"
<jimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | That thing is too expensive. I don't think it plays 640x480 resolutions
either.
I could spend 200, get a hardware encoder for divx, and get a divx player.
But I don't have 200. I have only enough for the divx player. There's got to
be a way to take the WMa stream, convert it to mp3, and all while in the
perfect package alongside the video stream. Like Virtual Dub, only VDub needs
WMV support.
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
You could of course kill 3 birds with one stone by getting a Porable
Meda Center device - that way it ways rather less than 7lbs (in fact,
less than 1lb) ...
Convert your content straight from windows media player to the device
then take it round their house.... and plug it into their TV ;-) Or,
connect it to your media center PC if you have one, and sync the
recorded TV content from there.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devices/portablemediacenter/video.mspx
Cheers - Neil
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:05:03 -0700, "jimmy"
jimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
I have been wanting to record video, take it with me to show other people-
basically, share media with people, but on their tv, as this is the most
universal form of the way we 'consume' this media. Well, I have come to the
conclusion that with my computer, I can capture glitch-free with only one
program. Windows Media Encoder. I check the box to temporarily save captured
content to the hard drive so I get every frame if and when the process gets
difficult for my cpu. My next step towards getting this media onto someone's
tv is to convert the captured video to a format viewable on something that
can connect to a tv. In my case, I want something cheap and yet something
that can be sort of portable. I could drag my whole computer to people's
houses, but I found a dvd/divx/mpeg4 player that weighs 7 lbs. Since it can
play mpeg4, and WME can capture in the mpeg4 format immediately, that's like
killing 2 birds. I jumped at the opportunity to pursue the final steps in
getting the media to the dvd player. I realized it doesn't support any of the
forms of WM9.1 audio, so I need to find a way to convert the audio track to
mp3.
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Zarax [Digital Media MVP]
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Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:47 am Post subject:
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The problem is that you cannot really avoid the transcoding process unless
you use another format when encoding the TV show itself...
That would lead you into buying something like DVD authoring software just
for recording.
About the Portable Media Center, it works as data storage device too (of
course 20GB will run out of space quickly).
I'm also a bit skeptical about your 640x480 resolution requirement...
Are you aware that TV (unless you're using an HDTV of course) resolution is
much lower than this (and curiously enough 320x240 or less depending if it's
PAL or NTSC)?
If you need further help on the matter i suggest you to try
www.microsoftusernetwork.com/forum where you will find a closer assistance.
"jimmy" wrote:
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I HAVE heard of a DVD player, just by strange coincidence. I have heard of
burners, also. You don't seem to be of much help to me. I have installed wmv
vcm and still have no wmv compatibility in vdub or vdub mod.
The reason I don't burn dvd's is because it takes another 2-3-4+ ? hours
just transocding the files. I want something I can record, burn, and take
with me. 5-10 pounds is fine.
I also have dbpower amp, and the wmv support update, and that doesn't work
for me either. Maybe it's just me. Doesn't like me. :(
I may just get a laptop.
I bought a dvd player a few days ago, because I have an 80gig hdd running
out. Movies/tv clips are my main space taker upper. :/ My main thing is I
want to be able to have the media at my fingertips, and the dvd burner is not
really for burning acual dvd's, but for burning data dvd's, because of the
transcoding. I want to be able to take a dvd around with me, but I'm just now
about to get a fulltime job! I hope I get it- A laptop with tv/headphone outs
is good enough for me, plus I can store 100+gigs on one, and all in whatever
resolution and whatever codec I want. A Laptop is the most universal problem
solver for me. Thanks for the help; even though it didn't work for me. Thanks
for showing interest. ;) |
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MS
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:45 am Post subject:
Re: WMV 9.1 audio- can I convert it to mp3? |
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"jimmy" <jimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I HAVE heard of a DVD player, just by strange coincidence. I have heard of
burners, also. You don't seem to be of much help to me. I have installed
wmv
vcm and still have no wmv compatibility in vdub or vdub mod.
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Really, you HAVE heard of DVD players, that most people have them attached
to their TVs, and that the easiest way to share video with others would be
to burn DVDs? No one who has taken their time to make suggestions to you
have been of any help to you?
If you have installed WMV-VCM, you will definitely see it listed in the list
of codecs under "Compression" in the "Video" menu of VDub or VDubmod, but I
don't know if that will help you.
| Quote: | The reason I don't burn dvd's is because it takes another 2-3-4+ ? hours
just transocding the files. I want something I can record, burn, and take
with me. 5-10 pounds is fine.
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Transcoding from what? I don't recall what your original video source was.
Did you record it with a camcorder? You could bring the camcorder to the
people's houses, to hook up to their TV. Or burn a VHS tape.
In any case, regardless whether it takes longer to make, a DVD is certainly
an easier way to share video with others, as opposed to going to their
house, and hooking up wires to your device.
| Quote: | I also have dbpower amp, and the wmv support update, and that doesn't work
for me either. Maybe it's just me. Doesn't like me. :(
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Sorry that nothing likes you! :-(
I'm not sure what doesn't work for you with dbpoweramp. It certainly does
not do anything with video, but it will convert just about any audio format
to any other.
| Quote: | I may just get a laptop.
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Get one. Try to find one that will "like you". Might be hard.
| Quote: | I bought a dvd player a few days ago, because I have an 80gig hdd running
out. Movies/tv clips are my main space taker upper. :/ My main thing is I
want to be able to have the media at my fingertips, and the dvd burner is
not
really for burning acual dvd's, but for burning data dvd's, because of the
transcoding. I want to be able to take a dvd around with me, but I'm just
now
about to get a fulltime job! I hope I get it- A laptop with tv/headphone
outs
is good enough for me, plus I can store 100+gigs on one, and all in
whatever
resolution and whatever codec I want. A Laptop is the most universal
problem
solver for me. Thanks for the help; even though it didn't work for me.
Thanks
for showing interest. ;)
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True, you can carry any kind of video on a laptop. I have never heard of one
with a 100GB HD, but perhaps one exists. That would certainly be an
expensive higher-end laptop, to have a 100GB HD.
As someone said, there also are these new portable media centers. |
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