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John
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: Can WM 6.4 play Screen v9? Reply with quote

Can Windows Media Player 6.4 play Windows Media Screen v9 content? I see
that Windows Media Screen v7 is in the codec install package, but can I
install v9 from somewhere?
Thanks

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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Can WM 6.4 play Screen v9? Reply with quote

I'd grab this and see if it helps : Although I'm not sure if it allows
you to watch screen-capture codec video, it might be worth a try.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/codecs/vcm.aspx

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:30:34 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Quote:
Can Windows Media Player 6.4 play Windows Media Screen v9 content? I see
that Windows Media Screen v7 is in the codec install package, but can I
install v9 from somewhere?
Thanks
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John
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Can WM 6.4 play Screen v9? Reply with quote

Ah... that didn't work. The description is VERY misleading.. I thought it
was going to do it for me.
Still get "Unable to download an appropriate decompressor" (which it
shouldn't have to do).
I can hear the audio, but see no video :(
This stinks.

Thanks anyway.

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:75euj051p0emb1a0nsc8etgfjct0j0qmeb@4ax.com...
Quote:
I'd grab this and see if it helps : Although I'm not sure if it allows
you to watch screen-capture codec video, it might be worth a try.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/codecs/vcm.aspx

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:30:34 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Can Windows Media Player 6.4 play Windows Media Screen v9 content? I see
that Windows Media Screen v7 is in the codec install package, but can I
install v9 from somewhere?
Thanks



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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
Guest





Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Can WM 6.4 play Screen v9? Reply with quote

Thats slightly odd if you consider that WMP6.4 is supposed to download
those codecs unless it's blocked. The only explanation I can think of
is that it's not a WM9 codec at all but something else, such as DivX.

Did you create the WM9 screen content ?

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:08:01 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Quote:
Ah... that didn't work. The description is VERY misleading.. I thought it
was going to do it for me.
Still get "Unable to download an appropriate decompressor" (which it
shouldn't have to do).
I can hear the audio, but see no video :(
This stinks.

Thanks anyway.

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:75euj051p0emb1a0nsc8etgfjct0j0qmeb@4ax.com...
I'd grab this and see if it helps : Although I'm not sure if it allows
you to watch screen-capture codec video, it might be worth a try.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/codecs/vcm.aspx

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:30:34 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Can Windows Media Player 6.4 play Windows Media Screen v9 content? I see
that Windows Media Screen v7 is in the codec install package, but can I
install v9 from somewhere?
Thanks


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John
Guest





Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Can WM 6.4 play Screen v9? Reply with quote

I did. I used Camtasia Studio. I look at the properties in WMP and it
says:

In use -
Installed:
YES Windows Media Audio 9
NO Windows Media Screen 9

I just checked the settings in Camtasia Studio, and it did encode as Screen
9.

I'll try some other things, but if you have any other ideas, I'd love to
hear.

Thanks again!!



"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:m8kuj0tjpd377t3dmkcd593ame8cee2lja@4ax.com...
Quote:
Thats slightly odd if you consider that WMP6.4 is supposed to download
those codecs unless it's blocked. The only explanation I can think of
is that it's not a WM9 codec at all but something else, such as DivX.

Did you create the WM9 screen content ?

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:08:01 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Ah... that didn't work. The description is VERY misleading.. I thought
it
was going to do it for me.
Still get "Unable to download an appropriate decompressor" (which it
shouldn't have to do).
I can hear the audio, but see no video :(
This stinks.

Thanks anyway.

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:75euj051p0emb1a0nsc8etgfjct0j0qmeb@4ax.com...
I'd grab this and see if it helps : Although I'm not sure if it allows
you to watch screen-capture codec video, it might be worth a try.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/codecs/vcm.aspx

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:30:34 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Can Windows Media Player 6.4 play Windows Media Screen v9 content? I
see
that Windows Media Screen v7 is in the codec install package, but can
I
install v9 from somewhere?
Thanks



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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
Guest





Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: Can WM 6.4 play Screen v9? Reply with quote

Well, let's see. There's always windows media encoder which will do
the same job as Camtasia (but it's free) ... and those codecs are
native to the encoder so I'd expect it to do a proper job, or at least
rule out some of the possible variables.

While on the subject of the encoder, I found the WME screen capture
was generally rubbish ;-p So what I did, I saved the profile (with
x-y screen coordinates) as a different profile name - This prevents
WME resetting the profile to the default screen capture settings.

Then, I changed the capture to use WMP9 VBR (variable bitrate) capture
instead, with no audio. It can be adjusted to an overall bitrate
that's damn near equal to the screen capture, to give very little
blurring.The results were much better than the screen capture codec
(no 256 colour banding) for semi-photo quality on screen graphics.
Worth a try.

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:03:48 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Quote:
I did. I used Camtasia Studio. I look at the properties in WMP and it
says:

In use -
Installed:
YES Windows Media Audio 9
NO Windows Media Screen 9

I just checked the settings in Camtasia Studio, and it did encode as Screen
9.

I'll try some other things, but if you have any other ideas, I'd love to
hear.

Thanks again!!



"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:m8kuj0tjpd377t3dmkcd593ame8cee2lja@4ax.com...
Thats slightly odd if you consider that WMP6.4 is supposed to download
those codecs unless it's blocked. The only explanation I can think of
is that it's not a WM9 codec at all but something else, such as DivX.

Did you create the WM9 screen content ?

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:08:01 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Ah... that didn't work. The description is VERY misleading.. I thought
it
was going to do it for me.
Still get "Unable to download an appropriate decompressor" (which it
shouldn't have to do).
I can hear the audio, but see no video :(
This stinks.

Thanks anyway.

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:75euj051p0emb1a0nsc8etgfjct0j0qmeb@4ax.com...
I'd grab this and see if it helps : Although I'm not sure if it allows
you to watch screen-capture codec video, it might be worth a try.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/codecs/vcm.aspx

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:30:34 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Can Windows Media Player 6.4 play Windows Media Screen v9 content? I
see
that Windows Media Screen v7 is in the codec install package, but can
I
install v9 from somewhere?
Thanks




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Zarax [Digital Media MVP]
Guest





Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Can WM 6.4 play Screen v9? Reply with quote

The only problem is that MP 6.4 doesn't like VBR... ;-)
Also... did you try installing the WMP9 codec pack?
It's at www.microsoft.com/windowsmedia, look for codecs 101.

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

Quote:
Well, let's see. There's always windows media encoder which will do
the same job as Camtasia (but it's free) ... and those codecs are
native to the encoder so I'd expect it to do a proper job, or at least
rule out some of the possible variables.

While on the subject of the encoder, I found the WME screen capture
was generally rubbish ;-p So what I did, I saved the profile (with
x-y screen coordinates) as a different profile name - This prevents
WME resetting the profile to the default screen capture settings.

Then, I changed the capture to use WMP9 VBR (variable bitrate) capture
instead, with no audio. It can be adjusted to an overall bitrate
that's damn near equal to the screen capture, to give very little
blurring.The results were much better than the screen capture codec
(no 256 colour banding) for semi-photo quality on screen graphics.
Worth a try.

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:03:48 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

I did. I used Camtasia Studio. I look at the properties in WMP and it
says:

In use -
Installed:
YES Windows Media Audio 9
NO Windows Media Screen 9

I just checked the settings in Camtasia Studio, and it did encode as Screen
9.

I'll try some other things, but if you have any other ideas, I'd love to
hear.

Thanks again!!



"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:m8kuj0tjpd377t3dmkcd593ame8cee2lja@4ax.com...
Thats slightly odd if you consider that WMP6.4 is supposed to download
those codecs unless it's blocked. The only explanation I can think of
is that it's not a WM9 codec at all but something else, such as DivX.

Did you create the WM9 screen content ?

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:08:01 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Ah... that didn't work. The description is VERY misleading.. I thought
it
was going to do it for me.
Still get "Unable to download an appropriate decompressor" (which it
shouldn't have to do).
I can hear the audio, but see no video :(
This stinks.

Thanks anyway.

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:75euj051p0emb1a0nsc8etgfjct0j0qmeb@4ax.com...
I'd grab this and see if it helps : Although I'm not sure if it allows
you to watch screen-capture codec video, it might be worth a try.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/codecs/vcm.aspx

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:30:34 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Can Windows Media Player 6.4 play Windows Media Screen v9 content? I
see
that Windows Media Screen v7 is in the codec install package, but can
I
install v9 from somewhere?
Thanks






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John
Guest





Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Can WM 6.4 play Screen v9? Reply with quote

Even though it says it's WMP9 codec pack... it only installs Windows Media
Screen version 7... go figure? :(


"Zarax [Digital Media MVP]" <ZaraxDigitalMediaMVP@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message news:6C7A30EF-04C5-4E21-AD2E-505637899707@microsoft.com...
Quote:
The only problem is that MP 6.4 doesn't like VBR... ;-)
Also... did you try installing the WMP9 codec pack?
It's at www.microsoft.com/windowsmedia, look for codecs 101.

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

Well, let's see. There's always windows media encoder which will do
the same job as Camtasia (but it's free) ... and those codecs are
native to the encoder so I'd expect it to do a proper job, or at least
rule out some of the possible variables.

While on the subject of the encoder, I found the WME screen capture
was generally rubbish ;-p So what I did, I saved the profile (with
x-y screen coordinates) as a different profile name - This prevents
WME resetting the profile to the default screen capture settings.

Then, I changed the capture to use WMP9 VBR (variable bitrate) capture
instead, with no audio. It can be adjusted to an overall bitrate
that's damn near equal to the screen capture, to give very little
blurring.The results were much better than the screen capture codec
(no 256 colour banding) for semi-photo quality on screen graphics.
Worth a try.

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:03:48 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

I did. I used Camtasia Studio. I look at the properties in WMP and it
says:

In use -
Installed:
YES Windows Media Audio 9
NO Windows Media Screen 9

I just checked the settings in Camtasia Studio, and it did encode as
Screen
9.

I'll try some other things, but if you have any other ideas, I'd love
to
hear.

Thanks again!!



"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:m8kuj0tjpd377t3dmkcd593ame8cee2lja@4ax.com...
Thats slightly odd if you consider that WMP6.4 is supposed to
download
those codecs unless it's blocked. The only explanation I can think of
is that it's not a WM9 codec at all but something else, such as DivX.

Did you create the WM9 screen content ?

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:08:01 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Ah... that didn't work. The description is VERY misleading.. I
thought
it
was going to do it for me.
Still get "Unable to download an appropriate decompressor" (which it
shouldn't have to do).
I can hear the audio, but see no video :(
This stinks.

Thanks anyway.

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:75euj051p0emb1a0nsc8etgfjct0j0qmeb@4ax.com...
I'd grab this and see if it helps : Although I'm not sure if it
allows
you to watch screen-capture codec video, it might be worth a try.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/codecs/vcm.aspx

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:30:34 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net
wrote:

Can Windows Media Player 6.4 play Windows Media Screen v9
content? I
see
that Windows Media Screen v7 is in the codec install package, but
can
I
install v9 from somewhere?
Thanks






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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
Guest





Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Can WM 6.4 play Screen v9? Reply with quote

Then you'll have to use the WMEncoder, as Zarax clarified (or Camtasia
if available) using CBR for WMP6.4 ... and use the WM9 standard rather
than screen capture codecs. Sorry, doesn't seem to be any other way to
meet all your requirements !

Cheers - Neil

On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 07:11:59 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Quote:
Even though it says it's WMP9 codec pack... it only installs Windows Media
Screen version 7... go figure? :(


"Zarax [Digital Media MVP]" <ZaraxDigitalMediaMVP@discussions.microsoft.com
wrote in message news:6C7A30EF-04C5-4E21-AD2E-505637899707@microsoft.com...
The only problem is that MP 6.4 doesn't like VBR... ;-)
Also... did you try installing the WMP9 codec pack?
It's at www.microsoft.com/windowsmedia, look for codecs 101.

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

Well, let's see. There's always windows media encoder which will do
the same job as Camtasia (but it's free) ... and those codecs are
native to the encoder so I'd expect it to do a proper job, or at least
rule out some of the possible variables.

While on the subject of the encoder, I found the WME screen capture
was generally rubbish ;-p So what I did, I saved the profile (with
x-y screen coordinates) as a different profile name - This prevents
WME resetting the profile to the default screen capture settings.

Then, I changed the capture to use WMP9 VBR (variable bitrate) capture
instead, with no audio. It can be adjusted to an overall bitrate
that's damn near equal to the screen capture, to give very little
blurring.The results were much better than the screen capture codec
(no 256 colour banding) for semi-photo quality on screen graphics.
Worth a try.

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:03:48 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

I did. I used Camtasia Studio. I look at the properties in WMP and it
says:

In use -
Installed:
YES Windows Media Audio 9
NO Windows Media Screen 9

I just checked the settings in Camtasia Studio, and it did encode as
Screen
9.

I'll try some other things, but if you have any other ideas, I'd love
to
hear.

Thanks again!!



"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:m8kuj0tjpd377t3dmkcd593ame8cee2lja@4ax.com...
Thats slightly odd if you consider that WMP6.4 is supposed to
download
those codecs unless it's blocked. The only explanation I can think of
is that it's not a WM9 codec at all but something else, such as DivX.

Did you create the WM9 screen content ?

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:08:01 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net> wrote:

Ah... that didn't work. The description is VERY misleading.. I
thought
it
was going to do it for me.
Still get "Unable to download an appropriate decompressor" (which it
shouldn't have to do).
I can hear the audio, but see no video :(
This stinks.

Thanks anyway.

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:75euj051p0emb1a0nsc8etgfjct0j0qmeb@4ax.com...
I'd grab this and see if it helps : Although I'm not sure if it
allows
you to watch screen-capture codec video, it might be worth a try.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/codecs/vcm.aspx

Cheers - Neil

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:30:34 -0400, "John" <noSPAM@please.net
wrote:

Can Windows Media Player 6.4 play Windows Media Screen v9
content? I
see
that Windows Media Screen v7 is in the codec install package, but
can
I
install v9 from somewhere?
Thanks







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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
Guest





Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Can WM 6.4 play Screen v9? Reply with quote

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 12:21:29 GMT, "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]"
<neil@nospam.com> wrote:


Quote:
if available) using CBR for WMP6.4 ...

Meaning 'if you must support WMP6.4, use a CBR profile'
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John
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Can WM 6.4 play Screen v9? Reply with quote

Thanks for all your input!! Not sure what I'm going to do yet. Maybe put
WMP9 on a single machine, and consider it a training machine, or play around
w/ re-encoding.

Again... thanks


"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 12:21:29 GMT, "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]"
neil@nospam.com> wrote:


if available) using CBR for WMP6.4 ...

Meaning 'if you must support WMP6.4, use a CBR profile'
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