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kram
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:45 pm Post subject:
How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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I can't seem to find any information about how to configure the WMP Helper
File for Explorer. I downloaded WMP for Mac last night. I have links to WMP
video files on my Web site. Everything works fine in Safari. But when I try
to access a video in Explorer, the WMP window does not even display and all I
get is a page full of gobbledy-gook.
Can someone please tell me exactly what I need to enter into all the Helper
Application fields in order to get this to work?
Thanks.
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Corentin Cras-Méneur
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:21 pm Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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kram <kram@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I can't seem to find any information about how to configure the WMP Helper
File for Explorer. I downloaded WMP for Mac last night. I have links to WMP
video files on my Web site. Everything works fine in Safari. But when I try
to access a video in Explorer, the WMP window does not even display and all I
get is a page full of gobbledy-gook.
Can someone please tell me exactly what I need to enter into all the Helper
Application fields in order to get this to work?
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In this case the helper application has to be the WMP plug-in. You just
need to specify the proper MIME types for it.
There is information about the MIME types on the MS site and you should
find it all in the FAQ:
http://www.cortig.net/wordpress/index.php?p=4
Corentin
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kram
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:39 pm Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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I deleted the suggested Library files. Still doesn't work. As I asked in my
original post, what info do I put in the Help File window to configure the
plug-in? There is no info on this in your FAQs.
"Corentin Cras-Méneur" wrote:
| Quote: | kram <kram@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
I can't seem to find any information about how to configure the WMP Helper
File for Explorer. I downloaded WMP for Mac last night. I have links to WMP
video files on my Web site. Everything works fine in Safari. But when I try
to access a video in Explorer, the WMP window does not even display and all I
get is a page full of gobbledy-gook.
Can someone please tell me exactly what I need to enter into all the Helper
Application fields in order to get this to work?
In this case the helper application has to be the WMP plug-in. You just
need to specify the proper MIME types for it.
There is information about the MIME types on the MS site and you should
find it all in the FAQ:
http://www.cortig.net/wordpress/index.php?p=4
Corentin
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Corentin Cras-Méneur
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:53 am Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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kram <kram@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
HI,
| Quote: | I deleted the suggested Library files. Still doesn't work. As I asked in my
original post, what info do I put in the Help File window to configure the
plug-in? There is no info on this in your FAQs.
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Well I think there is :-) What about this paragraph:
| Quote: | The plug-in doesn't seem to pick up that I try to access Windows Media
data and doesn't open the files/streams in my web browser:
- you need to
properly setup the Internet Config Database for the file and MIME types
WMP supports. The easiest way nowadays is to do it through the Internet
Explorer preferences (the modifications will be written back to the
Internet Config database for all other browsers). You'll find all the
appropriate settings there: http://tinyurl.com/76f5
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You can enter them all in the File helpers section of the IE prefs.
I edited the FAQ to make it more clear (but I have a bug in the software
I use so it'll take 7 hours to show up).
Corentin
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kram
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:47 am Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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Thanks for this referral. However, the information I need is NOT there. The
Add Helper Fle window requests a "File Type" and "Creator." The error message
says that "the file type and creator must contain exactly four characters and
at least one non-spece character." I have no idea what I should enter into
these fields. Does anyone know?????????
"Corentin Cras-Méneur" wrote:
| Quote: | kram <kram@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
HI,
I deleted the suggested Library files. Still doesn't work. As I asked in my
original post, what info do I put in the Help File window to configure the
plug-in? There is no info on this in your FAQs.
Well I think there is :-) What about this paragraph:
The plug-in doesn't seem to pick up that I try to access Windows Media
data and doesn't open the files/streams in my web browser:
- you need to
properly setup the Internet Config Database for the file and MIME types
WMP supports. The easiest way nowadays is to do it through the Internet
Explorer preferences (the modifications will be written back to the
Internet Config database for all other browsers). You'll find all the
appropriate settings there: http://tinyurl.com/76f5
You can enter them all in the File helpers section of the IE prefs.
I edited the FAQ to make it more clear (but I have a bug in the software
I use so it'll take 7 hours to show up).
Corentin
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Corentin Cras-Méneur
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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kram <kram@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for this referral. However, the information I need is NOT there. The
Add Helper Fle window requests a "File Type" and "Creator." The error message
says that "the file type and creator must contain exactly four characters and
at least one non-spece character." I have no idea what I should enter into
these fields. Does anyone know?????????
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Believe me. File type and Creator are not important since you set the
applciation to open the specific MIME types through the Plug-In. File
Types and Creator are not even needed anymore in MacOSX since the System
can associate files to their respective applciations through their
extensions. As I was saying: all you really need is the proper MIME
settings. Sotty if I wasn't more clear in my previous post.
Nevertheless you can easely fill up these fields using ???? for the file
type and Ms01 for the creator.
You can even use files of the same type through the Browse button to
automatically fill up these fields (which might give you something a
little better than ???? for the file type).
Corentin
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kram
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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OK. Thanks. I'll give it a try. But I've read on these boards that you can't
open streaming .wmv files with WMP. Is that true?
"Corentin Cras-Méneur" wrote:
| Quote: | kram <kram@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Thanks for this referral. However, the information I need is NOT there. The
Add Helper Fle window requests a "File Type" and "Creator." The error message
says that "the file type and creator must contain exactly four characters and
at least one non-spece character." I have no idea what I should enter into
these fields. Does anyone know?????????
Believe me. File type and Creator are not important since you set the
applciation to open the specific MIME types through the Plug-In. File
Types and Creator are not even needed anymore in MacOSX since the System
can associate files to their respective applciations through their
extensions. As I was saying: all you really need is the proper MIME
settings. Sotty if I wasn't more clear in my previous post.
Nevertheless you can easely fill up these fields using ???? for the file
type and Ms01 for the creator.
You can even use files of the same type through the Browse button to
automatically fill up these fields (which might give you something a
little better than ???? for the file type).
Corentin
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Corentin Cras-Méneur
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:57 pm Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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kram <kram@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | OK. Thanks. I'll give it a try. But I've read on these boards that you can't
open streaming .wmv files with WMP. Is that true?
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Not exactly. Let's say WMP is quite buggy and rather often fails to get
the stream. There are workarounds though. You can even use VLC for many
of the streams and .wmv files.
..wmv is not really streaming though. It's a Windows Media Video. If the
codec is supported by WMP9, you should be able to download the file and
play it.
Corentin
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kram
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:27 am Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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OK. Here's what I'm trying to do. I created five .wmv videos in Pinnacle
Studio. They are on my host Web server. I have links to them on my Web page.
Everything works fine on Windows computers and in Safari on Mac. The only
problem I am having is viewing the videos in IE 5.2.3 on my Mac. I am doing
usability testing to ensure that the videos can be viewed by all users,
regardless of platform. If I use the helper file information you provided,
will these videos be viewable in IE on my Mac?
"Corentin Cras-Méneur" wrote:
| Quote: | kram <kram@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
OK. Thanks. I'll give it a try. But I've read on these boards that you can't
open streaming .wmv files with WMP. Is that true?
Not exactly. Let's say WMP is quite buggy and rather often fails to get
the stream. There are workarounds though. You can even use VLC for many
of the streams and .wmv files.
..wmv is not really streaming though. It's a Windows Media Video. If the
codec is supported by WMP9, you should be able to download the file and
play it.
Corentin
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Corentin Cras-Méneur
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:32 am Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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kram <kram@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | OK. Here's what I'm trying to do. I created five .wmv videos in Pinnacle
Studio. They are on my host Web server. I have links to them on my Web page.
Everything works fine on Windows computers and in Safari on Mac. The only
problem I am having is viewing the videos in IE 5.2.3 on my Mac. I am doing
usability testing to ensure that the videos can be viewed by all users,
regardless of platform. If I use the helper file information you provided,
will these videos be viewable in IE on my Mac?
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If you can view them in Safari, you should be able top view them in IE.
They both use the same InternetConfig database for the MIME types and
how to handle files.
Do you want people to test this ?? Do you have a link ??
Corentin
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kram
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:13 am Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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korventeen@NoSpam.mvps.org (Corentin Cras-Méneur) wrote in message news:<1go2izb.n9zo8h1s655oqN%korventeen@NoSpam.mvps.org>...
| Quote: | kram <kram@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
OK. Here's what I'm trying to do. I created five .wmv videos in Pinnacle
Studio. They are on my host Web server. I have links to them on my Web page.
Everything works fine on Windows computers and in Safari on Mac. The only
problem I am having is viewing the videos in IE 5.2.3 on my Mac. I am doing
usability testing to ensure that the videos can be viewed by all users,
regardless of platform. If I use the helper file information you provided,
will these videos be viewable in IE on my Mac?
If you can view them in Safari, you should be able top view them in IE.
They both use the same InternetConfig database for the MIME types and
how to handle files.
Do you want people to test this ?? Do you have a link ??
Corentin
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I just finished trying all the suggestons I have gleaned from the
posts in this newsgroup and from the information you provided.
Unfortunately, nothing seems to work. I still get the gobbledy-gook
and it says "downloading text" in the browser status area. If you
would like to test for yourself, please go to the following URL:
http://www.chp-web.com/Camp_High_Point_5.wmv
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Corentin Cras-Méneur
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:54 am Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:13:39 -0600, kram wrote
(in article <bd41dba8.0411302013.1fb5ae9@posting.google.com>):
| Quote: | I just finished trying all the suggestons I have gleaned from the
posts in this newsgroup and from the information you provided.
Unfortunately, nothing seems to work. I still get the gobbledy-gook
and it says "downloading text" in the browser status area. If you
would like to test for yourself, please go to the following URL:
http://www.chp-web.com/Camp_High_Point_5.wmv
Let me know what happens. Thanks.
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I tried it and the file started downloading immediately (as expected). Once
on my drive, I double-clicked it and WMP played it without any problem
Since it's a wmv file, it's not going to be "streamed" anyway.
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kram
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:52 pm Post subject:
Re: How to configure Helper File for Explorer? |
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Corentin Cras-Méneur <korventeen@NoSpam.mvps.org> wrote in message news:<0001HW.BDD37D86004E5DECF03865C0@news.microsoft.com>...
| Quote: | On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:13:39 -0600, kram wrote
(in article <bd41dba8.0411302013.1fb5ae9@posting.google.com>):
I just finished trying all the suggestons I have gleaned from the
posts in this newsgroup and from the information you provided.
Unfortunately, nothing seems to work. I still get the gobbledy-gook
and it says "downloading text" in the browser status area. If you
would like to test for yourself, please go to the following URL:
http://www.chp-web.com/Camp_High_Point_5.wmv
Let me know what happens. Thanks.
I tried it and the file started downloading immediately (as expected). Once
on my drive, I double-clicked it and WMP played it without any problem
Since it's a wmv file, it's not going to be "streamed" anyway.
Corentin
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OK. So why does it stream using Safari??? And how did you get it to
download? I really don't understand how something that appears to be
this simple is turning out to be so difficult. Can't you tell me what
settings you used to get this to work??? This is not rocket science!
It works perfectly in Windows and in Safari on the Mac. Why doesn't it
work with Mac IE????? |
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Corentin Cras-Méneur
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:23 am Post subject:
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kram <karenram@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | OK. So why does it stream using Safari??? And how did you get it to
download? I really don't understand how something that appears to be
this simple is turning out to be so difficult. Can't you tell me what
settings you used to get this to work??? This is not rocket science!
It works perfectly in Windows and in Safari on the Mac. Why doesn't it
work with Mac IE?????
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It doesn't stream for me in Safari either.
Anyway, the file doesn't "stream" per say in Safari on your Mac either.
The application has to load it in cache first then plays it in the
window through the plug-in.
The setting for wmv that I can see in Explorer on my Mac is:
Description: Windows Media
Extension: .wmv
MIME type: video/x-ms-wmv
File Type: ???? (you can use ASF_ here instead)
File Creator: Ms01
Encoding: BInary data
Downloading Destination: Dowload folder
Handling: View with plug-in
Plug-in name: Windows Media Plug-in
<later>
OK. I managed to reproduce it in IE. I think I understand.
Safari (and all other browsers I tested) immediately download the file
whereas Ie attempts to open it. I traced the connection and the server
doesn't seem to specify any MIME type which seems to confuse IE.
I'm not familiar with the way servers assign MIME types. Is ther
anything you could do about it on your server ??
Here is the log for OmniWeb:
| Quote: | ACK PUSH
GET /Camp_High_Point_5.wmv HTTP/1.1
Connection: Keep-Alive
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US) AppleWebKit/125.4
(KHTML, like Gecko, Safari) OmniWeb/v563.29
Cache-Control: max-age=0
Pragma: no-cache
Host: www.chp-web.com
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png,
image/tiff, multipart/x-mixed-replace, */*;q=0.1
Accept-Encoding: bzip2, gzip, deflate, identity
Accept-Charset: iso-8859-1, utf-8, iso-10646-ucs-2, macintosh, windows-1252,
*
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The binary data begins immediately afterwards. No mention of MIME type
I got the following information from the MS site:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/networking/moniker/overview/appendix_
a.asp
| Quote: | The purpose of MIME type detection, or datasniffing, is to determine the
MIME type (also known as content type or media type) of downloaded
content using information from the following four sources:
• The server-supplied MIME type, if available
• An examination of the actual contents associated with a downloaded
URL
• The file name associated with the downloaded content (assumed to be
derived from the associated URL)
• Registry settings (file extension/MIME type associations or
registered applications) in effect during the download
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It looks like the server doesn't supply the MIME type and IE fails to
identify it from the content.
Corentin
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kram
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:43 am Post subject:
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Thanks for all of that info. And thanks for enlightening me about exactly
what streaming is. I thought that if you didn't have to download and open it,
it was streaming.
Anyway, how could the problem be with me server? Especially in light of the
fact that the problem only occurs with Mac IE? To troubleshoot a server
problem, what is it that I need to ask my Web host?
"Corentin Cras-Méneur" wrote:
| Quote: | kram <karenram@comcast.net> wrote:
OK. So why does it stream using Safari??? And how did you get it to
download? I really don't understand how something that appears to be
this simple is turning out to be so difficult. Can't you tell me what
settings you used to get this to work??? This is not rocket science!
It works perfectly in Windows and in Safari on the Mac. Why doesn't it
work with Mac IE?????
It doesn't stream for me in Safari either.
Anyway, the file doesn't "stream" per say in Safari on your Mac either.
The application has to load it in cache first then plays it in the
window through the plug-in.
The setting for wmv that I can see in Explorer on my Mac is:
Description: Windows Media
Extension: .wmv
MIME type: video/x-ms-wmv
File Type: ???? (you can use ASF_ here instead)
File Creator: Ms01
Encoding: BInary data
Downloading Destination: Dowload folder
Handling: View with plug-in
Plug-in name: Windows Media Plug-in
later
OK. I managed to reproduce it in IE. I think I understand.
Safari (and all other browsers I tested) immediately download the file
whereas Ie attempts to open it. I traced the connection and the server
doesn't seem to specify any MIME type which seems to confuse IE.
I'm not familiar with the way servers assign MIME types. Is ther
anything you could do about it on your server ??
Here is the log for OmniWeb:
ACK PUSH
GET /Camp_High_Point_5.wmv HTTP/1.1
Connection: Keep-Alive
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US) AppleWebKit/125.4
(KHTML, like Gecko, Safari) OmniWeb/v563.29
Cache-Control: max-age=0
Pragma: no-cache
Host: www.chp-web.com
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png,
image/tiff, multipart/x-mixed-replace, */*;q=0.1
Accept-Encoding: bzip2, gzip, deflate, identity
Accept-Charset: iso-8859-1, utf-8, iso-10646-ucs-2, macintosh, windows-1252,
*
The binary data begins immediately afterwards. No mention of MIME type
I got the following information from the MS site:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/networking/moniker/overview/appendix_
a.asp
The purpose of MIME type detection, or datasniffing, is to determine the
MIME type (also known as content type or media type) of downloaded
content using information from the following four sources:
• The server-supplied MIME type, if available
• An examination of the actual contents associated with a downloaded
URL
• The file name associated with the downloaded content (assumed to be
derived from the associated URL)
• Registry settings (file extension/MIME type associations or
registered applications) in effect during the download
It looks like the server doesn't supply the MIME type and IE fails to
identify it from the content.
Corentin
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