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DarioKlaric
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:
Streaming 3GPP files |
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I wonder is there a way to stream 3gpp files with streaming media server and
to receive them on the mobile phone? There should be a possibility to write a
plug in, but I didn't find any topics about this.
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Streaming 3GPP files |
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:15:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
<DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I wonder is there a way to stream 3gpp files with streaming media server and
to receive them on the mobile phone? There should be a possibility to write a
plug in, but I didn't find any topics about this.
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Yes, you can use Darwin streaming media server, or Helix streaming
media server to do this.
HTH
Cheers - Neil |
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Streaming 3GPP files |
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:11:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
<DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Nothing I'm aware of, sorry. This lot seem to suggest they 'transcode'
http://www.vidiator.com/031104.php the 3gpp (presumably to WMV).
You'd need a WMV player on a smartphone to play that content though.
Cheers - Neil
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Thanks for the answer, but that is not what I am looking for. I was
wondering is there a sample of media parser plugin anywhere that will help me
to make such a thing or is there any company that produces such a thing.
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:15:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
I wonder is there a way to stream 3gpp files with streaming media server and
to receive them on the mobile phone? There should be a possibility to write a
plug in, but I didn't find any topics about this.
Yes, you can use Darwin streaming media server, or Helix streaming
media server to do this.
HTH
Cheers - Neil
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DarioKlaric
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Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Streaming 3GPP files |
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Hi Neil,
Thanks for the answer, but that is not what I am looking for. I was
wondering is there a sample of media parser plugin anywhere that will help me
to make such a thing or is there any company that produces such a thing.
Thanks,
Dario Klaric
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:15:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
I wonder is there a way to stream 3gpp files with streaming media server and
to receive them on the mobile phone? There should be a possibility to write a
plug in, but I didn't find any topics about this.
Yes, you can use Darwin streaming media server, or Helix streaming
media server to do this.
HTH
Cheers - Neil
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DarioKlaric
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Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Streaming 3GPP files |
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As far as I know on smartphones exist vmp so there is no need to convert wma.
It is pretty strange for Microsoft that they have a possibility to make
something and at the same time they don't explain how to use the future. The
documentation is there but without example you have to be an expert to use it.
There are no explanation why the c++ is the only supported language for this
type of plugins and sdk samples are pretty far away from this topic.
Do you think that msdn subscription can offer us some indepth access to some
somple code that is not contained in sdk?
thanks,
Dario Klaric
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:11:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Nothing I'm aware of, sorry. This lot seem to suggest they 'transcode'
http://www.vidiator.com/031104.php the 3gpp (presumably to WMV).
You'd need a WMV player on a smartphone to play that content though.
Cheers - Neil
Thanks for the answer, but that is not what I am looking for. I was
wondering is there a sample of media parser plugin anywhere that will help me
to make such a thing or is there any company that produces such a thing.
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:15:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
I wonder is there a way to stream 3gpp files with streaming media server and
to receive them on the mobile phone? There should be a possibility to write a
plug in, but I didn't find any topics about this.
Yes, you can use Darwin streaming media server, or Helix streaming
media server to do this.
HTH
Cheers - Neil
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Streaming 3GPP files |
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:56:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
<DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | As far as I know on smartphones exist vmp so there is no need to convert wma.
It is pretty strange for Microsoft that they have a possibility to make
something and at the same time they don't explain how to use the future.
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I'm sorry - I don't see the connection. Where did MS get involved in
dealing with 3GPP streams ? I've never seen 3GPP reported anywhere as
something either media player (on PC or Phone or PDA) or WM Encoder,
or WM Services can handle.
Cheers - Neil |
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DarioKlaric
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Streaming 3GPP files |
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I didn't speak about 3gpp and Microsoft. I just saw that there is a way to
implement media parser plugin that should be able to do the work and that
part is not documented at all. Sorry for missunderstanding.
Dario Klaric
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:56:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
As far as I know on smartphones exist vmp so there is no need to convert wma.
It is pretty strange for Microsoft that they have a possibility to make
something and at the same time they don't explain how to use the future.
I'm sorry - I don't see the connection. Where did MS get involved in
dealing with 3GPP streams ? I've never seen 3GPP reported anywhere as
something either media player (on PC or Phone or PDA) or WM Encoder,
or WM Services can handle.
Cheers - Neil
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Streaming 3GPP files |
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:58:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
<DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Well, going back to the server streaming 3GPP, no I still don't think
there's a way to do this. Effectively, if you parsed any 3GPP stream
in order to send it out as WMV (or WMA) which is all that server
handles out of the box, then you've converted your Server into a Media
Encoder (strictly, a transcoder).
Probably you'd be better looking for a way to create a transcode
plugin for WME than for the server. WMS is not an open source project,
so I'd expect it to be very unlikely you can find the documentation
needed to make the server *be* an encoder or for it to handle streams
that are not native WM streams (with all the different player
handshake etc needed to determine the playback quality).
So, I refer you once again to Helix or Darwin servers ;-)
HTH
Cheers - Neil
| Quote: | I didn't speak about 3gpp and Microsoft. I just saw that there is a way to
implement media parser plugin that should be able to do the work and that
part is not documented at all. Sorry for missunderstanding.
Dario Klaric
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:56:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
As far as I know on smartphones exist vmp so there is no need to convert wma.
It is pretty strange for Microsoft that they have a possibility to make
something and at the same time they don't explain how to use the future.
I'm sorry - I don't see the connection. Where did MS get involved in
dealing with 3GPP streams ? I've never seen 3GPP reported anywhere as
something either media player (on PC or Phone or PDA) or WM Encoder,
or WM Services can handle.
Cheers - Neil
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DarioKlaric
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:30 am Post subject:
Re: Streaming 3GPP files |
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Thanks for the answers.
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:58:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Well, going back to the server streaming 3GPP, no I still don't think
there's a way to do this. Effectively, if you parsed any 3GPP stream
in order to send it out as WMV (or WMA) which is all that server
handles out of the box, then you've converted your Server into a Media
Encoder (strictly, a transcoder).
Probably you'd be better looking for a way to create a transcode
plugin for WME than for the server. WMS is not an open source project,
so I'd expect it to be very unlikely you can find the documentation
needed to make the server *be* an encoder or for it to handle streams
that are not native WM streams (with all the different player
handshake etc needed to determine the playback quality).
So, I refer you once again to Helix or Darwin servers ;-)
HTH
Cheers - Neil
I didn't speak about 3gpp and Microsoft. I just saw that there is a way to
implement media parser plugin that should be able to do the work and that
part is not documented at all. Sorry for missunderstanding.
Dario Klaric
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:56:02 -0800, "DarioKlaric"
DarioKlaric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
As far as I know on smartphones exist vmp so there is no need to convert wma.
It is pretty strange for Microsoft that they have a possibility to make
something and at the same time they don't explain how to use the future.
I'm sorry - I don't see the connection. Where did MS get involved in
dealing with 3GPP streams ? I've never seen 3GPP reported anywhere as
something either media player (on PC or Phone or PDA) or WM Encoder,
or WM Services can handle.
Cheers - Neil
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