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Mordido
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject:
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DVD video file extensions.
I use P2P to download files to burn to a DVD blank and then play only on my
TV's DVD Player for my personal and family use. WinDVD usually burns
whatever I download, but laterly I've downloaded files that are causing
problems--InterVideo's WinDVD won't format or burn them, it won't even play
it, and Windows Media Player won't Play them either, and I can't find a codec
to fix the problem/s. Yet, I can play those same files on RealPlayer, and
sometimes on DivX Player. I'm finding different Players are able to play
various file extension.
For example, I'm having problems with an extension FOURCC "XVID" and/or
FOURCC code "FMP4" Audio Data: "Tag 80." Moreover, some files will play on
RealPlayer or DivX Player, but not on WinDVD, such as Stargate
Atlantis.2x1.-.The.Sierge.Part.3.(VO.ST.FR).XviD-Selim, and another example
of unplayable file extensions on WinDVD but are able on RealPlayer is
Stargate Atlantis.SO2E01.WS.DSR.XviD-LOKi.
The above most recent examples play on RealPlayer, but won't play on WinDVD
which is my DVD Burner. So, if I want to burn to a blank dvd and watch it on
my TV DVD player, I'm out of luck. Please advice (1) a solution (2)which
extension are usable by WinDVD and InterVedio Creator (3) is there an
alternate DVD Burner that'll deal with XviD extensins?
One thing I'd appreciate, since I have InterVideo's WinDVD Player Creator,
when I'm downloading through a P2P software such as Azureus or eDonkey, how
can I pinpoint file extensions that I know I can play on WinDVD or Windows
Media Player, the two I use most, but especailly on InterVideo WinDVD because
that's my DVD Burner? Please advise.
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Media Player can't play some extensions. How can I spec |
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:55:02 -0700, "Mordido"
<Mordido@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | DVD video file extensions.
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I think you're getting confused between a file extension and a codec
used to decode the video inside the file. They are only occasionally
related and can't be relied on as a guide to how to decode the video.
| Quote: | I use P2P to download files to burn to a DVD blank and then play only on my
TV's DVD Player for my personal and family use. WinDVD usually burns
whatever I download, but laterly I've downloaded files that are causing
problems--InterVideo's WinDVD won't format or burn them, it won't even play
it, and Windows Media Player won't Play them either, and I can't find a codec
to fix the problem/s. Yet, I can play those same files on RealPlayer, and
sometimes on DivX Player. I'm finding different Players are able to play
various file extension.
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Installing the DivX player may be a separate process from installing a
DirectX compatible codec - which is what media player uses to play
DivX content. In addition, there are a series of DivX codecs, and not
all are 100% backward compatible. Have a look on the Divx website
support forums for information on these issues.
| Quote: | For example, I'm having problems with an extension FOURCC "XVID" and/or
FOURCC code "FMP4" Audio Data: "Tag 80." Moreover, some files will play on
RealPlayer or DivX Player, but not on WinDVD, such as Stargate
Atlantis.2x1.-.The.Sierge.Part.3.(VO.ST.FR).XviD-Selim, and another example
of unplayable file extensions on WinDVD but are able on RealPlayer is
Stargate Atlantis.SO2E01.WS.DSR.XviD-LOKi.
The above most recent examples play on RealPlayer, but won't play on WinDVD
which is my DVD Burner.
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I thought WinDVD just played videos - has it been updated ?
Regardless, I found it on my machine and discovered that the decode
performance is dreadful. I replaced it with the Nero recode package
and at one time grabbed the NVidia DVD decoder trial which worked very
very well.
| Quote: | So, if I want to burn to a blank dvd and watch it on
my TV DVD player, I'm out of luck. Please advice (1) a solution (2)which
extension are usable by WinDVD and InterVedio Creator (3) is there an
alternate DVD Burner that'll deal with XviD extensins?
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Well, a domestic DVD player uses MPEG2 compression for the video.
Anything you're getting which is either DivX or XVid are closely
related and derivatives of MPEG4 encoding.
So the step you need to take is to "transcode" the files from MPEG4 to
MPEG2 before you can move the files to your DVD creator software, as
it appears unable to read those formats you listed.
This guide should help in that :
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/convert_avi_to_dvd.cfm
There's actually a pay-for conversion tool if you think it'd make your
life simpler than the guide above (though I've not tested this tool) :
http://www.avsmedia.com/videoconverter/formats/xvid-to-dvd.aspx
| Quote: | One thing I'd appreciate, since I have InterVideo's WinDVD Player Creator,
when I'm downloading through a P2P software such as Azureus or eDonkey, how
can I pinpoint file extensions that I know I can play on WinDVD or Windows
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It's not really down to the file extension. Many of the files will be
AVI (end in .avi) but that's just a container format. Inside the avi
container you can package many types of encoded video, so the file
extension aint gonna be much help.
Luckily, there's the GSpot codec checker which can determine in most
cases, what the encoding scheme of the video is - MPEG4, ASF, H263 etc
etc, and if your system has decoders to play the content.
GSpot : http://www.headbands.com/gspot/
| Quote: | Media Player, the two I use most, but especailly on InterVideo WinDVD because
that's my DVD Burner? Please advise. |
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Sebastian Gottschalk
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Media Player can't play some extensions. How can I spec |
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Mordido wrote:
| Quote: | DVD video file extensions.
I use P2P to download files to burn to a DVD blank and then play only on my
TV's DVD Player for my personal and family use. WinDVD usually burns
whatever I download, but laterly I've downloaded files that are causing
problems--InterVideo's WinDVD won't format or burn them, it won't even play
it, and Windows Media Player won't Play them either, and I can't find a codec
to fix the problem/s. Yet, I can play those same files on RealPlayer, and
sometimes on DivX Player. I'm finding different Players are able to play
various file extension.
For example, I'm having problems with an extension FOURCC "XVID" and/or
FOURCC code "FMP4" Audio Data: "Tag 80." Moreover, some files will play on
RealPlayer or DivX Player, but not on WinDVD, such as Stargate
Atlantis.2x1.-.The.Sierge.Part.3.(VO.ST.FR).XviD-Selim, and another example
of unplayable file extensions on WinDVD but are able on RealPlayer is
Stargate Atlantis.SO2E01.WS.DSR.XviD-LOKi.
The above most recent examples play on RealPlayer, but won't play on WinDVD
which is my DVD Burner. So, if I want to burn to a blank dvd and watch it on
my TV DVD player, I'm out of luck. Please advice (1) a solution (2)which
extension are usable by WinDVD and InterVedio Creator (3) is there an
alternate DVD Burner that'll deal with XviD extensins?
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XVid is generic MPEG4-ASP in AVI container, the latter being easily
stripped and replaced with an ISO-MP4 container. Melting away the
differences between XVid, DivX, Ffmpeg-MP4 and alikes.
The problem lies within playback capabilities. WinDVD includes an
MPEG4-decoder which is very poor, while RealPlayer uses QuickTime
internally for MPEG4 playback. You can find my quick overview at
<http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s9053014/mp4_comparison.rtf.gz> (german, but
the relevant tables are quite easy to understand).
There you can also find that both Nero Digital (just install Nero or NeroVE
as demo version) and Mpegable DS are very high quality MPEG4 decoders on
DirectShow level, allowing easy playback of almost any MPEG4 in WinDVD or
WMP. DivX, XVid, 3ivX and Ffdshow are also pretty good, but only decode
AVI.
Therefore we can conclude to the third problem: With a good DirectShow
capable Video Editing software (NOT InterVideo Creator!) you can easily
convert the content to DVD-compliant MPEG2. With a good WfV capable Video
Editing software (NOT InterVideo Creator!) you can easily convert the
content to DVD-compliant MPEG2. Up from there it's just a little step to
wrapping it within VOB and putting it onto a DVD. (again: InterVideo
Creator is no good tool for such a job)
--
Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
Key: 0xA0E28D18 FP: 83AE 1136 1E2B 9767 8FB2 7594 4128 1A9E A0E2 8D18
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Mordido
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Media Player can't play some extensions. How can I spec |
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I appreciate your time and help. Please bear with for one more ?. If WinDVD
Creator (InterVideo) sucks? And I agree it does, please advise on one you'd
use to burn DVDs.
"Sebastian Gottschalk" wrote:
| Quote: | Mordido wrote:
DVD video file extensions.
I use P2P to download files to burn to a DVD blank and then play only on my
TV's DVD Player for my personal and family use. WinDVD usually burns
whatever I download, but laterly I've downloaded files that are causing
problems--InterVideo's WinDVD won't format or burn them, it won't even play
it, and Windows Media Player won't Play them either, and I can't find a codec
to fix the problem/s. Yet, I can play those same files on RealPlayer, and
sometimes on DivX Player. I'm finding different Players are able to play
various file extension.
For example, I'm having problems with an extension FOURCC "XVID" and/or
FOURCC code "FMP4" Audio Data: "Tag 80." Moreover, some files will play on
RealPlayer or DivX Player, but not on WinDVD, such as Stargate
Atlantis.2x1.-.The.Sierge.Part.3.(VO.ST.FR).XviD-Selim, and another example
of unplayable file extensions on WinDVD but are able on RealPlayer is
Stargate Atlantis.SO2E01.WS.DSR.XviD-LOKi.
The above most recent examples play on RealPlayer, but won't play on WinDVD
which is my DVD Burner. So, if I want to burn to a blank dvd and watch it on
my TV DVD player, I'm out of luck. Please advice (1) a solution (2)which
extension are usable by WinDVD and InterVedio Creator (3) is there an
alternate DVD Burner that'll deal with XviD extensins?
XVid is generic MPEG4-ASP in AVI container, the latter being easily
stripped and replaced with an ISO-MP4 container. Melting away the
differences between XVid, DivX, Ffmpeg-MP4 and alikes.
The problem lies within playback capabilities. WinDVD includes an
MPEG4-decoder which is very poor, while RealPlayer uses QuickTime
internally for MPEG4 playback. You can find my quick overview at
http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s9053014/mp4_comparison.rtf.gz> (german, but
the relevant tables are quite easy to understand).
There you can also find that both Nero Digital (just install Nero or NeroVE
as demo version) and Mpegable DS are very high quality MPEG4 decoders on
DirectShow level, allowing easy playback of almost any MPEG4 in WinDVD or
WMP. DivX, XVid, 3ivX and Ffdshow are also pretty good, but only decode
AVI.
Therefore we can conclude to the third problem: With a good DirectShow
capable Video Editing software (NOT InterVideo Creator!) you can easily
convert the content to DVD-compliant MPEG2. With a good WfV capable Video
Editing software (NOT InterVideo Creator!) you can easily convert the
content to DVD-compliant MPEG2. Up from there it's just a little step to
wrapping it within VOB and putting it onto a DVD. (again: InterVideo
Creator is no good tool for such a job)
--
Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
Key: 0xA0E28D18 FP: 83AE 1136 1E2B 9767 8FB2 7594 4128 1A9E A0E2 8D18
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Mordido
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Media Player can't play some extensions. How can I spec |
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Both posts are exceptional. Thank you.
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:55:02 -0700, "Mordido"
Mordido@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
DVD video file extensions.
I think you're getting confused between a file extension and a codec
used to decode the video inside the file. They are only occasionally
related and can't be relied on as a guide to how to decode the video.
I use P2P to download files to burn to a DVD blank and then play only on my
TV's DVD Player for my personal and family use. WinDVD usually burns
whatever I download, but laterly I've downloaded files that are causing
problems--InterVideo's WinDVD won't format or burn them, it won't even play
it, and Windows Media Player won't Play them either, and I can't find a codec
to fix the problem/s. Yet, I can play those same files on RealPlayer, and
sometimes on DivX Player. I'm finding different Players are able to play
various file extension.
Installing the DivX player may be a separate process from installing a
DirectX compatible codec - which is what media player uses to play
DivX content. In addition, there are a series of DivX codecs, and not
all are 100% backward compatible. Have a look on the Divx website
support forums for information on these issues.
For example, I'm having problems with an extension FOURCC "XVID" and/or
FOURCC code "FMP4" Audio Data: "Tag 80." Moreover, some files will play on
RealPlayer or DivX Player, but not on WinDVD, such as Stargate
Atlantis.2x1.-.The.Sierge.Part.3.(VO.ST.FR).XviD-Selim, and another example
of unplayable file extensions on WinDVD but are able on RealPlayer is
Stargate Atlantis.SO2E01.WS.DSR.XviD-LOKi.
The above most recent examples play on RealPlayer, but won't play on WinDVD
which is my DVD Burner.
I thought WinDVD just played videos - has it been updated ?
Regardless, I found it on my machine and discovered that the decode
performance is dreadful. I replaced it with the Nero recode package
and at one time grabbed the NVidia DVD decoder trial which worked very
very well.
So, if I want to burn to a blank dvd and watch it on
my TV DVD player, I'm out of luck. Please advice (1) a solution (2)which
extension are usable by WinDVD and InterVedio Creator (3) is there an
alternate DVD Burner that'll deal with XviD extensins?
Well, a domestic DVD player uses MPEG2 compression for the video.
Anything you're getting which is either DivX or XVid are closely
related and derivatives of MPEG4 encoding.
So the step you need to take is to "transcode" the files from MPEG4 to
MPEG2 before you can move the files to your DVD creator software, as
it appears unable to read those formats you listed.
This guide should help in that :
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/convert_avi_to_dvd.cfm
There's actually a pay-for conversion tool if you think it'd make your
life simpler than the guide above (though I've not tested this tool) :
http://www.avsmedia.com/videoconverter/formats/xvid-to-dvd.aspx
One thing I'd appreciate, since I have InterVideo's WinDVD Player Creator,
when I'm downloading through a P2P software such as Azureus or eDonkey, how
can I pinpoint file extensions that I know I can play on WinDVD or Windows
It's not really down to the file extension. Many of the files will be
AVI (end in .avi) but that's just a container format. Inside the avi
container you can package many types of encoded video, so the file
extension aint gonna be much help.
Luckily, there's the GSpot codec checker which can determine in most
cases, what the encoding scheme of the video is - MPEG4, ASF, H263 etc
etc, and if your system has decoders to play the content.
GSpot : http://www.headbands.com/gspot/
Media Player, the two I use most, but especailly on InterVideo WinDVD because
that's my DVD Burner? Please advise.
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Sebastian Gottschalk
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Media Player can't play some extensions. How can I spec |
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Mordido wrote:
| Quote: | I appreciate your time and help. Please bear with for one more ?. If WinDVD
Creator (InterVideo) sucks? And I agree it does, please advise on one you'd
use to burn DVDs.
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WinDVD Creator might be useable for VOB packaging and burning, but for MPEG
encoding and especially cutting/editing and media import there're much
better tools. VOB packaging and burning itself can be done with other tools
as well, so better stop using an all-in-one program and use independent
tools for the verious steps of the entire process.
P.S.: Learn quoting. :-)
--
Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
Key: 0xA0E28D18 FP: 83AE 1136 1E2B 9767 8FB2 7594 4128 1A9E A0E2 8D18 |
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Mordido
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject:
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With a little help from my "FRIENDS," I'm "LEARNING," Sebastion.
"Sebastian Gottschalk" wrote:
| Quote: | Mordido wrote:
I appreciate your time and help. Please bear with for one more ?. If WinDVD
Creator (InterVideo) sucks? And I agree it does, please advise on one you'd
use to burn DVDs.
WinDVD Creator might be useable for VOB packaging and burning, but for MPEG
encoding and especially cutting/editing and media import there're much
better tools. VOB packaging and burning itself can be done with other tools
as well, so better stop using an all-in-one program and use independent
tools for the verious steps of the entire process.
P.S.: Learn quoting. :-)
--
Dieser Schrieb stellt eine private Meinungsäußerung des Verfassers im
Sinne der gesetzlich garantierten Meinungsfreiheit dar. Wem das nicht
passt, der wende sich an das Bundesverfassungsgericht. Viel Erfolg!
Key: 0xA0E28D18 FP: 83AE 1136 1E2B 9767 8FB2 7594 4128 1A9E A0E2 8D18
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